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MadameButterfly

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96. Things were similarly desperat during the Civil War

Mon Dec 9, 2024, 12:02 AM

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The best generals were Southerners. The South more eager to fight. It went very badly for the North for quite awhile. If it hadn't, the emancipation proclamation wouldn't have happened, so sometimes maybe things happen for reasons we don't understand.

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To those who believe they have moral authority regarding the murder of United Health's CEO [View all] Mr.WeRP Dec 5 OP

I wonder if this will give pause to all this heady talk Klarkashton Dec 5 #1

People like Musk will just hire a $10 million a year security team. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #7

He already does Algernon Moncrieff Dec 5 #40

Yes but the risk level is going up. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #43

Don't mess with people's money. NEOBuckeye Dec 5 #50

Yes people are finally showing righteous anger and are in agreement about it. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #58

Their wealth is going to become a trap NEOBuckeye Dec 5 #71

Yes they will live in golden cages. Irish_Dem Dec 6 #90

One can certainly hope misanthrope Dec 5 #72

I wonder when pundits say the people wont take it MadameButterfly Dec 6 #86

And he's from South Africa FCS Evolve Dammit Dec 5 #63

Yes he is from one of the BRIC countries, a group trying to bring down the US. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #66

and a lot of "norms" are gone because of Trump PedroXimenez Dec 5 #76

The words "justice for all" hasn't applied to the USA in decades. When that changes we can have a right or wrong yaesu Dec 5 #2

The US has never had a justice system "for all." intheflow Dec 5 #35

Yes but it has never played out in such stark horrific reality. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #44

I don't think it ever has peregrinus Dec 5 #46

Well said. I do think the pitchforks are coming out now. LiberalLoner Dec 5 #3

Maybe the French will loan us their old guillotines. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #5

Robespierre was an edgelord too TheProle Dec 5 #17

Little WD-40 and good as new? Evolve Dammit Dec 5 #64

Yep. French craftsmanship is said to be excellent. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #68

Chickens have come home to roost. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #4

#1 and #5 resonate with me AllyCat Dec 5 #36

Yes. Even if we do not agree with it, we can understand it. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #38

Murder is not justified..... Lovie777 Dec 5 #6

The society you live in (assuming you live in the US) says otherwise Mr.WeRP Dec 5 #9

Would killing Hitler be wrong? Irish_Dem Dec 5 #18

The old philosophical question on morality. sarisataka Dec 5 #25

yes, killing Hilter would be the right thing to do MadameButterfly Dec 6 #85

We are getting to that point. Irish_Dem Dec 6 #89

Yes. But if we want to go there MadameButterfly Dec 8 #94

We don't know how this will play out. Irish_Dem Dec 8 #95

Things were similarly desperat during the Civil War MadameButterfly Dec 9 #96

Yes good point. Same thing in WWII. Irish_Dem Dec 9 #97

I don't like to sound like Trump but this time the enemy is within MadameButterfly Dec 9 #98

Yes I know. Irish_Dem Dec 9 #99

Well, normally, I would agree with you oldmanlynn Dec 5 #34

Then PCHI CEOs should stop uponit7771 Dec 6 #93

As I've said many times ColinC Dec 5 #8

But the point is that the US robber barons kill Americans every day and get away with it. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #19

Well bringing light to the mass murders is certainly worth a lot ColinC Dec 5 #26

It is also now a crime to treat dying women. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #27

Yup ColinC Dec 5 #45

We know how well the justice system works in America. Should CEO's Emile Dec 5 #10

They already have security teams. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #20

If you recall the French Revolution ran out of aristocrats sarisataka Dec 5 #11

Oh I am aware. Mr.WeRP Dec 5 #15

Sadly misplaced acts of violence will not solve healthcare problems. CEOs do not make all sinkingfeeling Dec 5 #12

No, no, no. This cannot be the excuse. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #21

So execution is okay with you because the man didn't defy his board of directors and sinkingfeeling Dec 5 #33

He could have quit. He could have protested. Why does fiduciary duty get higher deference than other's lives? steelyboo Dec 5 #53

He gleefully killed the most vulnerable people for profit and greed. mike_c Dec 5 #79

Good to know that DU 'liberals' now espouse murder as a solution sinkingfeeling Dec 5 #81

No one is promoting it as the solution Mr.WeRP Dec 6 #87

I was advised that is a rightwing talking point! Skittles Dec 5 #57

Oh, I didn't realize that opposing murder was RW. Thanks for sinkingfeeling Dec 5 #62

no, that was told to me Skittles Dec 5 #67

I thought you were done here? Mr.WeRP Dec 5 #82

Sorry, I refuse to become trumpian and support of 2nd Amendment Solutions. Especially in cases like this. Silent Type Dec 5 #13

maybe we should wait and see who killed him and why? nt msongs Dec 5 #14

The crime scene evidence tells us why. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #22

What a novel idea 💡 MustLoveBeagles Dec 5 #28

"We the people" decided on 7 November that we don't really care about the rule of law. meadowlander Dec 5 #16

They thought the rule of law was to protect themselves and punish/control their enemies. Irish_Dem Dec 5 #24

At what point does it become self defense? Voltaire2 Dec 5 #23

Well, this wasn't self-defense because UCH will just replace Thompson with AllyCat Dec 5 #42

I mean, they have laws allowing girls and women to bleed out/sepsis and die while in hospitals LizBeth Dec 5 #29

I've been wondering if this will break a taboo of sorts CanonRay Dec 5 #30

Maybe us minions on the left and right will discover... paleotn Dec 5 #32

Same here. n/t R. P. McMurphy Dec 5 #75

Well said. paleotn Dec 5 #31

All I have to say to those people is Demobrat Dec 5 #37

Bravo❗ Duppers Dec 6 #84

Murderous parasites have no empathy and deserve none dalton99a Dec 5 #39

so you are literally OK with executions on the street? Skittles Dec 5 #41

Apparently our justice system thinks it's okay. Emile Dec 5 #47

sorry, I don't remember US being for that Skittles Dec 5 #48

The court justice didn't have any problems with it. Emile Dec 5 #49

so now WE are gun humpers too? Skittles Dec 5 #54

WTF you are calling us gun humpers? Emile Dec 5 #61

done here Skittles Dec 5 #69

How many times do you have to repeat that? Emile Dec 5 #77

They are still posting in this thread despite saying it 3 times now. Mr.WeRP Dec 5 #83

Not only in this thread, but in others too. Emile Dec 6 #88

Where did I say that? Mr.WeRP Dec 5 #51

apparently anyone not comfortable with street executions is exhibiting MORAL AUTHORITY Skittles Dec 5 #55

I think many of the same folks here who made excuses for Garland Mr.WeRP Dec 5 #56

not sure how that POS plays into it Skittles Dec 5 #60

None of this will change their(the rich) perspective of shitting on the people. mymomwasright Dec 5 #52

I'm sure the French aristocrats are laughing at that statement Mr.WeRP Dec 5 #59

I don't discount the possiblity customerserviceguy Dec 5 #65

I have a friend who works for UHC Demobrat Dec 5 #70

That seems highly unlikely Mr.WeRP Dec 6 #92

We don't know what the motive was yet Meowmee Dec 5 #73

That's fiction n/t wryter2000 Dec 5 #74

What? You're against asymmetrical murder? usonian Dec 5 #78

The guy was making $51 million a year and deployed an AI that could replace half his staff. Initech Dec 5 #80

Deny, Defend, Depose is the new "Let them eat cake." Mr.WeRP Dec 6 #91