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2. Corporations use H1-B Visas as basically a scam to pay tech workers less.

Mon Dec 30, 2024, 05:57 AM

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Some Stats:

• 76% of H-1B Visa holders are from India
• 70% of H-1B Visas are for computer-related occupations
• $85k = median salary H-1B in computer occupations
• $132k = median salary of American in computer science

So, H-1B visa holders get paid 65% of Americans in computer science. H-1B is predominantly a source of cheap labor for the tech industry. It has been for years. https://ssti.org/blog/useful-stats-look-h-1b-visa-program-industry-employer-and-state
https://www.david-ware.com/blog/2017/04/which-country-are-most-h-1b-visa-holders-from/#:~:text=Individuals%20with%20India%20as%20their,up%201.3%20percent%20of%20beneficiaries.

Right now, the unemployment rate among American tech workers--even experienced ones--is 6%. That's 50% higher than the overall national unemployment rate of 4%. NO employer should be using the H-1B program for tech workers as long as tech worker unemployment is above 4%.

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The H1B Visa Program Should Be Stopped Immediately [View all] applegrove Monday OP

Initiated by Bush Sr..... Lovie777 Monday #1

It was introduced by Ted Kennedy whopis01 Monday #17

I'm surprised Bush Sr. went down to the high 20's in approval Polybius Monday #32

Recession and high unemployment whopis01 Tuesday #48

Bush Sr., IMO, also lacked the kind of electioneering experience that most men who ascended to the presidency had. Midwestern Democrat Tuesday #60

I understand the recession, but those were truly horrible numbers Polybius Tuesday #61

Yep. MotownPgh Tuesday #54

Corporations use H1-B Visas as basically a scam to pay tech workers less. SunSeeker Monday #2

Solution is that they have to pay them 3x what those in Congress earn after 6 months 😂 cstanleytech Monday #4

Yep ... and this WSJ - US IT unemployment at 6%, that's 50% higher than national avg uponit7771 Monday #14

And that is the official unemployment rate. Old Crank Monday #21

I'd simply limit it greatly to no more than a bare handful each year. cstanleytech Monday #3

When McKinsey Comes to Town by Bogdanich and Forsyth. multigraincracker Monday #5

Maybe president Biden Tickle Monday #6

End indentured servitude Nululu Monday #7

It's that way with ALL work visas in ALL countries. The sponsor of the visa owns your ass AZLD4Candidate Monday #24

Many visas don't tie you to an employer Nululu Monday #38

Do you know how HARD those visas are? I explored every way to get my wife here AZLD4Candidate Monday #41

Women don't shut up and sit down on your say so. Nululu Monday #43

When you go through a four year visa process to reunite with your spouse, you can tell me all about visa AZLD4Candidate Tuesday #44

Doesn't excuse your rudeness or whataboutisms Nululu Tuesday #45

Relative of mine when working in Big Finance BadgerKid Monday #8

20,000 H1Bs are reserved for those graduating with a masters or doctorate speak easy Monday #9

Only if its being used to suppress wages like current H1B abuses, WSJ - US IT unemployment is at 6% twice national avg uponit7771 Monday #13

and the unemployment rate of those holding U.S. Doctorates? speak easy Monday #18

While I don't like Doug Stanhope has a comic, he did have one good bit AZLD4Candidate Monday #23

One of my kids is a fresh Computer Science graduate. mn9driver Monday #10

Because of ghost jobs posted by h1B abusers people are forced no to go direct to recruiters and talk to them vs online uponit7771 Monday #12

**THERE IS NO IT WORKER SHORTAGE!!** WSJ - US IT unemployment is at 6% !! 50% higher than national average uponit7771 Monday #11

Half truths... JT45242 Monday #15

You're partially right. H1B is our version of a work visa that all countries require if you wish to legally work in AZLD4Candidate Monday #22

Places like Australia have defined MotownPgh Tuesday #55

our visa laws were written by racists, businessmen, vulture investors, and nativistic xenophobes AZLD4Candidate Tuesday #57

Well we vote for these lawmakers MotownPgh Tuesday #58

garbage in, garbage out. when you have selfish ignorant citizens, you have selfish ignornant leaders AZLD4Candidate Tuesday #59

I got laid off of an IT job 14 years ago, MurrayDelph Monday #27

Im sure there are many that can fo the MotownPgh Tuesday #56

Perhaps the real question should be? mgardener Monday #16

Given that sensitive documents were found in the bathrooms a Mar A Lago... Yavin4 Monday #36

wrong visa type (for Trump's employees) Celerity Tuesday #46

Okay Yavin4 Tuesday #62

I'm not sure this is true-- this is a widely held belief but I think it may be misinfo LymphocyteLover Monday #19

Every country in the world has work visas. When I was in China, I was on a Z work visa because, even being married to AZLD4Candidate Monday #20

here's an article from a year ago with some facts... PedroXimenez Monday #25

The danger to middle-class American jobs is not Mexican agricultural workers, but H1B visas and similar subterfuges dalton99a Monday #26

Can't H1B be used for non-tech jobs? Renew Deal Monday #28

Uh, no, every person ought to be free to live and work where they choose. Voltaire2 Monday #29

I could go along with that IF the US made huge public investments in housing, education, healthcare and transportation. Yavin4 Monday #37

Indeed. Public infrastructure is critical. Voltaire2 Tuesday #47

H1B is used to suppress the wages of American Klarkashton Monday #30

So fix it. Igel Monday #31

Killing it is not a cure, and continues the path of closing us off from the world Hekate Monday #33

So how to regulate it so it is not used to lower the wages of Americans? applegrove Monday #34

Given the anti-regulatory mood of MAGAGOP, I really don't know Hekate Monday #35

Why? Immigrants are great for America. Jacson6 Monday #39

It needs to be revamped at the very least so it cannot be abused so much. applegrove Tuesday #50

When I worked in tech Unladen Swallow Monday #40

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Monday #42

Now that it is being revealed that these are immigrants replacing technically skilled whites, the program Jit423 Tuesday #49

H1B Visa makes me think of this Company Town Company Housing Company Store Oneear Tuesday #51

All work visas in all countries are like that. Speaking from experience having one in five countries AZLD4Candidate Tuesday #52

I concur a million times over. MotownPgh Tuesday #53

Only if we had obnoxiousdrunk Tuesday #63