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Bluetus

(1,267 posts)
84. Promises vs ideas vs vision vs challenges ?
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 04:05 PM
Jan 2025

You wrote "People are hungry for bold promises."

Being honest and grounded in reality are not bad things. But that doesn't really motivate people. People are motivated by being challenged with big, bold ideas.

Democrats have this disease where we negotiate against ourselves. Let me give an example. Resolved: We should extend Medicare to people of any age by allowing those under age 65 simply to pay a premium that covers the ACTUAL COST of their age cohort (with no extra corporate profits, shareholder dividends and lavish executive salaries)

Democrats would come up with 100 reasons why this wouldn't work before the idea was stated in public.
* HHS can't handle the workload
* All the corporations would fight it
* How could we ever manage collections?
* Think of all the UHC workers that would lose their jobs
and so on.

It has literally been 60 years (JFK - Apollo or LBJ - Great Society) since Democrats had ANY big, bold ideas. The last 3 generations of Dems have mastered the art of negative thinking. It wasn't always this way. FDR was continuously on the march with big bold ideas.

We lost our way a long time ago. There are many good, smart progressives in the party today. We need to get rid of the ones who have done nothing but negative thinking for decades. They are doing no good for anybody.

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It means "stop hiring women and never hire gays" DBoon Jan 2025 #1
Which is ironic given how much he is fellating Trump right now LonePirate Jan 2025 #48
but that's masculine homosexual activity DBoon Jan 2025 #62
It is meaningless ass-kissing to please pseudo-manly Trump/Musk whiners by a pathetic creep and liar emulatorloo Jan 2025 #2
There it is, all in a headline ornotna Jan 2025 #12
Exactly underpants Jan 2025 #52
Says Zuckerberg, the ultimate DWEEB... hlthe2b Jan 2025 #3
Yep. He's sorta well-schooled on the subject of masculine energy. Knows it when he sees it. nt allegorical oracle Jan 2025 #7
He has no masculine energy at all. Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #20
I wonder if this recent outburst stems from marital problems. yardwork Jan 2025 #75
Usually the toxic masculinity talk means trouble in the bedroom. Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #78
the Ultimate Incel RainCaster Jan 2025 #49
Well, he had enough "masculine energy" TexasBushwhacker Jan 2025 #67
Says zuckerberg, the ultimate asshole, monster and Anti-Christ Trueblue1968 Jan 2025 #89
It means Zuck is a prick calguy Jan 2025 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2025 #10
You seem nice ornotna Jan 2025 #13
and bye-bye! Lulu KC Jan 2025 #22
I'll take "Things a MAGA Would Say" for $500, Alex. eShirl Jan 2025 #5
Exactly. "Masculine energy" is a dog whistle for MAGA & "It's a Man's World" Bluetus Jan 2025 #21
Well said, Bluetus. Diamond_Dog Jan 2025 #24
That is not the campaign I witnessed MagickMuffin Jan 2025 #69
What was the biggest, boldest proposal that Harris presented Bluetus Jan 2025 #74
I agree with you on this. yardwork Jan 2025 #76
Promises vs ideas vs vision vs challenges ? Bluetus Jan 2025 #84
I agree. yardwork Jan 2025 #86
The corporate money makes it stick Bluetus Jan 2025 #88
Every campaign event her platform was being addressed and discussed MagickMuffin Jan 2025 #92
I'm not sure the point is getting across. Bluetus Jan 2025 #95
With that Prince Valiant hair style he previously wore for years and now whatever... brush Jan 2025 #6
I believe the haircut is meant to look like Augustus Caesar DBoon Jan 2025 #11
Heehee. Whatever it is, he should look in the mirror again. brush Jan 2025 #14
I think the mirror would crack in disgust DBoon Jan 2025 #61
Zuckerberg... Musk... Trump.... viva la Jan 2025 #8
Fascism JBTaurus83 Jan 2025 #9
Dickishness seems like an apt word for what he probably thinks of as masculine energy. dgauss Jan 2025 #15
Means the idiot don't feel so good. elleng Jan 2025 #16
Cut throat competition both inhouse among coworkers,... and external,... magicarpet Jan 2025 #17
Joe Rogan podcast is a misogynist safe space Johonny Jan 2025 #18
Oh good! That must mean that Zuckerberg is actually DEI-friendly no_hypocrisy Jan 2025 #19
It means he's feeling insecure about himself as a straight man. Think. Again. Jan 2025 #23
Consider the podcast's audience. Intractable Jan 2025 #25
"It is not enough to win ... the opponent must be destroyed!" dobleremolque Jan 2025 #26
Sounds like somebody just finished the first season of Mad Men. Xavier Breath Jan 2025 #27
Translation program says it's Zuckerspeak for "I'm a halfwit" struggle4progress Jan 2025 #28
It may mean that one of his biggest weaknesses taxi Jan 2025 #29
It's not just minimizing women. Renew Deal Jan 2025 #40
Sounds like he's watching a little too much...wrestling. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Jan 2025 #30
Are Dancin' Don and Elon Acrobat icons of Energetic Males? Ping Tung Jan 2025 #31
I guess Twain meant that to be funny LearnedHand Jan 2025 #68
Except Mossfern Jan 2025 #83
When I was working in television, I was denied a job WhiteTara Jan 2025 #32
In my field I inhibit them from swearing. milestogo Jan 2025 #90
Fuck if I know sakabatou Jan 2025 #33
Maybe it's a Joe Rogan thing. mn9driver Jan 2025 #34
Easy answer: some bullshit. Initech Jan 2025 #35
It means Facebook will probably have more sexual harassment lawsuits! ExciteBike66 Jan 2025 #36
It means Zuck is a pissant. nt The Unmitigated Gall Jan 2025 #37
Men who have to "POMP UP" and put on a show are weak inside. REAL men are strong without the show, and compassionate. usonian Jan 2025 #38
I don't know why you are asking just the men. Renew Deal Jan 2025 #39
And more steroids Renew Deal Jan 2025 #73
I'm just asking men because they know more about "masculinity" than I do. tenderfoot Jan 2025 #79
Zuckerberg wants higher aggression levels in corporations because there isn't enough greed? Bread and Circuses Jan 2025 #41
American Psycho was a documentary Johonny Jan 2025 #42
I'm getting so gd sick and tired of the anti woman cancer in this country Diamond_Dog Jan 2025 #43
They're trying to legitimize their male toxic culture. Baitball Blogger Jan 2025 #44
Hey, Zuck! Aristus Jan 2025 #45
Does he consider himself masculine? mzmolly Jan 2025 #46
More masculine energy. Norbert Jan 2025 #47
Everything that he says and does now seems like there are problems in his marriage. Yavin4 Jan 2025 #50
It means Mark Zuckerberg mr715 Jan 2025 #51
It means Zuck is the same weirdo P.O.S. incel (in spirit if not fact) he was when RockRaven Jan 2025 #53
Sounds like he's wanting to have a circle jerk without calling it a circle jerk. Solly Mack Jan 2025 #54
Small dick edhopper Jan 2025 #55
I don't even think Zuck knows what that means Docreed2003 Jan 2025 #56
Maybe he's projecting. marble falls Jan 2025 #57
August 26, 1970 needs to happen again SARose Jan 2025 #58
It means he's an insecure prick DET Jan 2025 #59
coming from the oh so masculine pfitz59 Jan 2025 #60
Dude is about as masculine as a wet towel. JanMichael Jan 2025 #63
Thinks men should think with their little head and not their big head. multigraincracker Jan 2025 #64
Says the guy who wanted all to wear goggles and live in a cartoonish virtual world. John1956PA Jan 2025 #65
Our new white, rich male overlords are all very crazy and a disturbed bunch. Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #70
Here is one example shown on the Meta avatar site: John1956PA Jan 2025 #71
These figures are hostile, aggressive and quite disturbed. Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #72
It doesn't matter because Trumpers don't ever worry about nuance Blue_Tires Jan 2025 #66
From the jackass who said holocaust deniers have a legitimate point of view. JohnSJ Jan 2025 #77
Replace Energy with Dominance, and you begin to understand getagrip_already Jan 2025 #80
Zuckerberg is one person I would never consider 'masculine', never. He's a dweeb, and just because he has some SWBTATTReg Jan 2025 #81
Our "genius" nerds are...kinda dumb? Prairie Gates Jan 2025 #82
What the hell does this face know about "masculine energy?" Lunabell Jan 2025 #85
Zukerberg is a MAGA asshole LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2025 #87
Schmuckerberg is not at all that masculine... rasputin1952 Jan 2025 #91
Take Muskrat with you hunting pigs Maeve Jan 2025 #93
He would get his ass kicked in every fair contest among hard men. Ursus Rex Jan 2025 #94
So i asked my husband - just now JustAnotherGen Jan 2025 #96
It's 10:43 JustAnotherGen Jan 2025 #97
Yeah, Zuckerberg is all about that Big Dick(head) Energy. LudwigPastorius Jan 2025 #98
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