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mzmolly

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45. I disagree.

Thu Jan 30, 2025, 12:56 AM

Jan 30

He looked like a martyr then. He wasn’t in charge. He was playing the victim.

What are we supposed to do, not criticize him for the next four years? Count on the Republican Congress and Senate to do a fair investigation?

Trump just requested mass resignations from the very people who can help prevent situations like this. He owns it.

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Trump must be held accountable for the crash in DC. [View all] mzmolly Jan 29 OP

Whoa. Gonna keep my eyes and ears on the alert for this. kerry-is-my-prez Jan 29 #1

Yup. Why isn't Scump doing a better job landing planes? Hassler Jan 29 #2

Air traffic contollers were told to resign, mzmolly Jan 29 #3

No kidding there is a shortage! DENVERPOPS Jan 29 #9

I just found this statement from a week ago. mzmolly Jan 29 #10

Not only that, MarineCombatEngineer Jan 29 #11

I agree. And I think about the Coast Guard and other rescuers tonight, mzmolly Jan 30 #22

Hey MCE DENVERPOPS Jan 30 #72

According to a Washington Post article I read earlier this morning, cloudbase Jan 30 #79

MCE.....here you go DENVERPOPS Jan 30 #95

Why weren't they fully staffed? MichMan Jan 30 #66

Actually DENVERPOPS Jan 30 #73

True, but how many had resigned, and did it impact the situation? HereForTheParty Jan 30 #67

As soon as I heard about the crash, I thought, this is tRump's fault! nt Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Jan 29 #4

Tomorrow, trump will waddle up to podium and say that Biden Admin failures are responsible. Silent Type Jan 29 #5

Yes he will. We need to hit him hard, immediately. mzmolly Jan 29 #7

Yes, this needs to be hung around his neck. And his Nixie Jan 29 #12

Voters didn't blame george war bush for 9/11, 8 months after taking office. Suspect same here. Silent Type Jan 30 #18

We didn't message properly mzmolly Jan 30 #30

trump was on 24/7 in court, convicted of fraud and rape, etc. He gained votes. I don't think a week or so Silent Type Jan 30 #40

I disagree. mzmolly Jan 30 #45

Yeah ReRe Jan 30 #33

Actually, quite a few did. Think. Again. Jan 30 #81

Not enough. Silent Type Jan 30 #98

Very true. Think. Again. Jan 30 #99

Yet the entire corporate media blamed Biden SocialDemocrat61 Jan 30 #100

That will be such an irresponsible Blue_Roses Jan 30 #69

He already has DENVERPOPS Jan 30 #83

It happened on his watch RainCaster Jan 29 #6

Not only is he in charge. He just asked for a mass resignation. mzmolly Jan 29 #8

Not to mention rescue efforts hampered due to lack of leadership at the U.S. Coastguard. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 29 #13

His anti-DEI movement quite literally kills newdeal2 Jan 29 #14

This country is going to shit because of conservatives. Initech Jan 29 #15

Sure. Like Trump has been held accountable for everything else. (n/t) DJ Synikus Makisimus Jan 30 #16

Which is why I made the point mzmolly Jan 30 #19

It's Trump's world now. We're just the passengers - in steerage. (n/t) DJ Synikus Makisimus Jan 30 #71

It's more thana little early for such accusations is it not? Disaffected Jan 30 #17

That's right. It is something they would do. However, it's something we should do mzmolly Jan 30 #20

Of course not. Disaffected Jan 30 #24

They may or may not be related, true. mzmolly Jan 30 #27

OK then. Disaffected Jan 30 #35

I'll retract mzmolly Jan 30 #42

It's amazing how many folks are fighting the last war, like this is the 90s and norms are in place. BannonsLiver Jan 30 #96

Agree. mzmolly Jan 30 #112

That's true, the Republicans would jump on this. And keep lying if they were proven wrong. kerry-is-my-prez Jan 30 #43

Yep. They would catapult that propaganda. mzmolly Jan 30 #47

They would never let a tragedy go to waste. BattleRow Jan 30 #59

Earlier posts stated that ATC are currently understaffed by 30% and it takes 3 years to train. MichMan Jan 30 #68

If he made cuts that directly affected this, you bet! LeftInTX Jan 30 #23

"If he made cuts that directly affected this..." Disaffected Jan 30 #25

He is commander in chief, of coarse he is responsible questionseverything Jan 30 #63

He requested a mass resignation. mzmolly Jan 30 #28

I know he did. But did any resign? Did he make other cuts? LeftInTX Jan 30 #32

Yes he made cuts. Did you read the OP? mzmolly Jan 30 #36

TSA is not ATC. It's the people who make sure we aren't carrying bombs on board etc. LeftInTX Jan 30 #37

That's not all the TSA does. mzmolly Jan 30 #41

The helicopter was warned happybird Jan 30 #61

Respect for who? mzmolly Jan 30 #70

... happybird Jan 30 #116

There is evidence that he's weakened the very systems mzmolly Jan 30 #117

There have been issues with helicopter traffic happybird Jan 30 #119

And? mzmolly Jan 30 #120

Mump is Blaming It on Dems & DEI.. What Cha Jan 30 #103

. mzmolly Jan 30 #107

You're Welcome, mzmolly... Cha Jan 30 #108

Here: LisaL Jan 30 #38

Thanks. That is helpful. LeftInTX Jan 30 #39

Thank you. mzmolly Jan 30 #49

So sad and likely preventable. mzmolly Jan 30 #111

This article looks pretty damning. The airline people were warning about lack of safety kerry-is-my-prez Jan 30 #50

Thanks for this LeftInTX Jan 30 #53

If you think it is crazy now DENVERPOPS Jan 30 #82

It certainly does!! ElementaryPenguin Jan 30 #105

Thanks for sharing. mzmolly Jan 30 #113

Hegsbreath runs the military helo. BidenRocks Jan 30 #62

I tried listening but most of it is dead air... could you summarize? questionseverything Jan 30 #102

It's poor quality and I couldn't make much of it. I posted to show the angle of the two aircraft LeftInTX Jan 31 #121

Unfortunately that's the battlefield now. BannonsLiver Jan 30 #60

"There's no reason not to exploit that weakness." Disaffected Jan 30 #89

Amazing you write this after his presser today. BannonsLiver Jan 30 #90

You just don't get it do you. Disaffected Jan 30 #91

Irony is dead BannonsLiver Jan 30 #92

You mean the winning repugs? lame54 Jan 30 #88

FYI mzmolly Jan 30 #110

Recommended. H2O Man Jan 30 #21

I just hope he doesn't insist on more cuts after this! LeftInTX Jan 30 #26

I hope he'll realize that government workers are necessary. mzmolly Jan 30 #29

He never will. He only considers AF-1 and SS necessary LeftInTX Jan 30 #34

He should be very concerned then newdeal2 Jan 30 #44

Yep LeftInTX Jan 30 #46

Speaking of AFONE DENVERPOPS Jan 30 #84

Maybe that will be leighbythesea2 Jan 30 #97

Holy shit. Every time I think I've heard the worst, there's something else Hekate Jan 30 #31

trump and his marauders are going to turn us into Russia. C Moon Jan 30 #48

Not marauders.......CABAL DENVERPOPS Jan 30 #85

EXACTLY... and Starting out at Break Neck Speed.. Putin's Cha Jan 30 #104

Statements on Trump's Dangerous Freeze of Air Traffic Control Hiring LetMyPeopleVote Jan 30 #51

I saw just gonna post this here! LeftInTX Jan 30 #52

The buck stops w/ F47... ultralite001 Jan 30 #54

How will Trump and his cronies get the big tax cuts and Federal contracts without these kinds of cuts? Doodley Jan 30 #55

He wasn't held accountable for 200,000 American lives lost on his early leadership on Covid. OAITW r.2.0 Jan 30 #56

A study by DENVERPOPS Jan 30 #86

Here He Is To Save the Day DET Jan 30 #57

Yes. nt Dave Bowman Jan 30 #58

America is crashing and burning in trumps watch. Flying will be a nightmare with this admin OrlandoDem2 Jan 30 #64

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 30 #65

AGREED! n/t AntiFascist Jan 30 #74

The g.o.p. Felon is 100% responsible BoRaGard Jan 30 #75

Posted on Bluesky spanone Jan 30 #76

Wow. mzmolly Jan 30 #94

Expelling the FAA Chief without a replacement is criminal C_U_L8R Jan 30 #77

The official NTSB crash report will be highly politicized. Just watch. NCDem47 Jan 30 #78

We Need More Air Traffic Controllers for FAA Safety Keep Us Safe Oneear Jan 30 #80

Trump has already found the true cause.......... DENVERPOPS Jan 30 #87

tRump doesn't "own" it, but he has to wear it. . . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 30 #93

If Harris had been elected, it never would have happened n/t MichMan Jan 30 #101

I'd like to think he would Bettie Jan 30 #106

He hasn't been held accountable for anything a day in his life. Karasu Jan 30 #109

Yes. mzmolly Jan 30 #114

There was ONE controller doing TWO jobs. Kablooie Jan 30 #115

That poor controller, mzmolly Jan 30 #118