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46. The stolen Presidential election was in 2000 in Florida

Reply to Frank D. Lincoln (Original post)

Sun Feb 2, 2025, 06:24 PM

Feb 2025

From 2000, there are enough uncounted votes in Florida that sit uncounted in the Florida archives to change the outcome of that election. It's several hundred thousand uncounted Florida votes located in the largest and most heavily democratic voting counties in Florida to be more exact It was the Bush brothers all out assault on American democracy in Florida that started well before election day 2000 and culminated with the Rehnquist 5 rubberstamping the Bush brothers all out assault on American democracy that created the mess that our country is now in. I'm so familiar with this and continue to be outraged by it because 15 of my 24 years spent working on dem election campaigns were spent in Florida. tRump tried to run the same Bush brothers assault on democracy in 2020 but he failed.
I don't see any evidence from the OP that there are enough uncounted votes in enough states for there to be a comparison between 2000 and 2024 to the point to be able to say that the 2024 election was stolen like the 2000 election was stolen.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Frank D. Lincoln Feb 2025 OP

100% agree obamanut2012 Feb 2025 #1

This is not going to be popular here but, the Democrats knew the cheating would happen, they did nothing Escurumbele Feb 2025 #137

You are 100% right. lees1975 Feb 2025 #145

Musk didn't help in 2020. pandr32 Feb 2025 #146

I find it hard to believe that we had a female candidate, but Trump gained 3% among women since the previous election.. Doodley Feb 2025 #2

Forces favoring women's reproductive freedom-- BadgerMom Feb 2025 #138

Some women thought their state's laws were enough to protect them. They didn't know SharonAnn Feb 2025 #140

Re the results malaise Feb 2025 #3

2024 was rigged from the start Charging Triceratops Feb 2025 #4

Thank you for sharing your thoughts about the PA vote. John1956PA Feb 2025 #32

For a guy who has lied, cheated & stolen his entire life Give Peace A Chance Feb 2025 #47

Sorry, not acting like trump or millions of GOPers who think he won in 2020. It doesn't help at this point. Silent Type Feb 2025 #5

Because she didn't want to seem like Felon-47 Charging Triceratops Feb 2025 #6

Hope we don't develop strategy for future elections based upon not being able to accept we lost. Silent Type Feb 2025 #8

I doubt that there will even be any future elections except for maybe sham elections like in Russia. nt Frank D. Lincoln Feb 2025 #26

No, let's develop strategy based upon being... dchill Feb 2025 #105

Pretend? We lost "bigly." You are seeing result now. Silent Type Feb 2025 #106

This Trump-style delusion and denial of reality is actually quite surreal. tritsofme Feb 2025 #107

You KNOW that's not true, right? dchill Feb 2025 #109

We lost House, Senate, and Presidency? That's big to me. Didn't even win popular vote this time. Silent Type Feb 2025 #110

Gee! How'd THAT happen? dchill Feb 2025 #111

Yup. yellow dahlia Feb 2025 #10

Bullshit. No FUCKING way Kamala would back down if it was "stolen" Maru Kitteh Feb 2025 #79

It isn't that Kamala doesn't have courage... Trueblue Texan Feb 2025 #136

Of course she would Cirsium Feb 2025 #163

So why didn't he steal 2020? Polybius Feb 2025 #114

He didn't have the tech bros backing then. intheflow Feb 2025 #131

Future elections? LOL LR3 Feb 2025 #152

I think some said you had to have a reason thinkingagain Feb 2025 #9

She -- like most Democrats -- knew she lost. It was tough, but glad she and Clinton chose not to make a scene. Silent Type Feb 2025 #11

Now the " scene " is woman dying in their cars for the need of a d&c questionseverything Feb 2025 #55

We lost. Silent Type Feb 2025 #100

Not according to Greg Palast ReRe Feb 2025 #121

Weird how he doesn't actually link to any source data EdmondDantes_ Feb 2025 #126

Thank you. Perhaps I am too trusting. I will look-see. n/t ReRe Feb 2025 #129

Like Gore? intheflow Feb 2025 #130

I don't think she had evidence the election was stolen. Doodley Feb 2025 #13

1. Did you read the report, yellow dahlia Feb 2025 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author Butterflylady Feb 2025 #15

That's easy.... Butterflylady Feb 2025 #17

Its not about recount, its about 3.5 million red state voters who weren't allowed to vote or whos votes weren't counted yaesu Feb 2025 #18

That Palast junk is even worse BS. I wish Harris were in WH too. But you gotta win first. Silent Type Feb 2025 #20

Palast is a well respected international reporter who provides evidence questionseverything Feb 2025 #103

Well respected by who/whom? Silent Type Feb 2025 #104

Again, check him out ReRe Feb 2025 #122

I've read his inaccurate BS since 2016. He has no proof and believes that anyone purged from voter rolls were Silent Type Feb 2025 #144

OK. Silent Type. You need to live up to your name ReRe Feb 2025 #175

I'm 75 and tired of our government not delivering, that goes for our party too. Silent Type Feb 2025 #182

I lied. I will continue since that was your reply. ReRe Feb 5 #183

Your point? I want to win, and I'm ticked we lost, yet people want to promote Palast's BS Silent Type Feb 5 #184

You're a soar loser, then. n/t ReRe Feb 5 #185

Me, for one. Liberal In Texas Feb 2025 #128

No he absolutely doesn't present evidence EdmondDantes_ Feb 2025 #127

Never mind Palast Cirsium Feb 2025 #165

False equivalency. Frank D. Lincoln Feb 2025 #24

lol, their conspiracy theories had all the same sort of nonsense. This is the exact same as Trump's election denialism. tritsofme Feb 2025 #60

That is no accident Cirsium Feb 2025 #164

I was glad to see this report last night. yellow dahlia Feb 2025 #7

I wouldn't put anything past musk..... Butterflylady Feb 2025 #12

You have to wonder edhopper Feb 2025 #16

Trump is an illegitimate president SnoopDog Feb 2025 #19

Excellent point. Frank D. Lincoln Feb 2025 #35

Hell, he was an illegitimate CANDIDATE. He wasn't even legally allowed to run, so he's illegitimate by default. Karasu Feb 2025 #37

Excellent point - Trump committed an insurrection SnoopDog Feb 2025 #41

Also, bomb threats all over the place. n/t ReRe Feb 2025 #123

I really don't know what happened, but I do know this Dan Feb 2025 #21

If Al Gore refused to go all the way in then I can't blame Harris. JanMichael Feb 2025 #22

Al Gore collected money for a recount... Hope22 Feb 2025 #28

If that website is Palast's doing, I'd be suspicious. ificandream Feb 2025 #23

This is from the website I linked to in the OP. Frank D. Lincoln Feb 2025 #39

It sounds like what he'd be saying. ificandream Feb 2025 #150

You're definitely entitled to your suspicion and opinion. No apologies needed. Frank D. Lincoln Feb 2025 #155

Just because it's a conspiracy doesn't mean it's not true. live love laugh Feb 2025 #120

I'd give it low credence unless there was absolute solid proof. ificandream Feb 2025 #151

Where is it proven that Greg Palast is a conspiracy theorist? ReRe Feb 2025 #124

I've never seen any of Palast's stuff go beyond his audience. ificandream Feb 2025 #153

Your entire argument is based on your biases and preferences. live love laugh Feb 2025 #156

Requiring source evidence isn't a bias EdmondDantes_ Feb 2025 #167

Once again you overlook the facts and grasp at loopholes. live love laugh Feb 2025 #169

If we don't win the election was stolen. speak easy Feb 2025 #25

Sometimes it's true. FoxNewsSucks Feb 2025 #42

No RandySF Feb 2025 #27

Yes. FoxNewsSucks Feb 2025 #43

Yes obamanut2012 Feb 2025 #80

Musk has more money and resources than anyone, and after 2020, there's no way Trump would settle for anything less than Karasu Feb 2025 #29

Can't disagree. jalan48 Feb 2025 #30

Agree godsentme Feb 2025 #31

scrambled braincells stillcool Feb 2025 #33

Musk had the vote counting tech that Drumpf was raving about. And zero recounts. Just rolled over. Evolve Dammit Feb 2025 #34

What was the undercount in swing states? The Wizard Feb 2025 #36

In retrospect, should Harris have echoed Trump's assertion that, if she lost, she would challenge the results? Mr. Ected Feb 2025 #38

Well, Hillary won in 2016, by the only metric that SHOULD matter--but unfortunately doesn't in this fucking country. Karasu Feb 2025 #49

Yes! Grumpy Old Guy Feb 2025 #40

I Wish This Were Bigger News Mr.Bee Feb 2025 #44

Absolutely. Only an utter idiotic fool FoxNewsSucks Feb 2025 #45

So Harris, Biden, Marc Elias, all Democratic elected officials are "utter idiotic fools" tritsofme Feb 2025 #61

I preached about rising fascism 20 years ago. intheflow Feb 2025 #172

The stolen Presidential election was in 2000 in Florida GoreWon2000 Feb 2025 #46

Democrats couldn't contest the election results madville Feb 2025 #48

Both the exit polling and the immediate polls before the election do not support this conclusion andym Feb 2025 #50

They prevented people from voting all together... SnoopDog Feb 2025 #53

But it will show up in general polling as well as opinion polls about the Democratic Party andym Feb 2025 #56

Polling means nothing. SnoopDog Feb 2025 #58

Polling informs us of trends, it just doesn't ultimately count toward winning an election andym Feb 2025 #59

Do you really think you can trust polls nowdays? SnoopDog Feb 2025 #62

"Trust" is too strong a word for polls, rather take them as potentially valid but imprecise data points andym Feb 2025 #74

Well votes were counted, and even states run up and down by Democrats like PA and MI were lost. tritsofme Feb 2025 #63

You cannot count votes that were suppressed by voter suppression... SnoopDog Feb 2025 #65

Why did the Democrats who run those states suppress votes? tritsofme Feb 2025 #66

They didn't. It was republican operatives... SnoopDog Feb 2025 #67

So your argument is that the Democrats who run those states are so incompetent tritsofme Feb 2025 #68

Your 'dems run the state' is a canard... SnoopDog Feb 2025 #69

It's not a "canard" it is simply the truth. This concept can be quite difficult for folks who are susceptible tritsofme Feb 2025 #70

Well, I am not a weak Democrat... I fight for the truth SnoopDog Feb 2025 #75

Nope, this is just Trump-style election denialism. No different at all. tritsofme Feb 2025 #76

So 4 million purged Dem voters had no effect on the election...ok got it... SnoopDog Feb 2025 #77

So no crack at explaining why Democratic elected officials sat back and let it happen? tritsofme Feb 2025 #81

So no crack at explaining 4 million purged Dem voters? SnoopDog Feb 2025 #82

Do you have a single report of a purged voter who was unable to cast ballot in 2024? tritsofme Feb 2025 #83

Oink... SnoopDog Feb 2025 #87

lol, so I guess we'll take that as a hard "no" tritsofme Feb 2025 #92

In Wisconsin (a major swing state) forthemiddle Feb 2025 #171

If they had id with the new address questionseverything Feb 2025 #176

And your evidence for that is???? Palast makes the claim but does not provide any supporting evidence. Wiz Imp Feb 2025 #97

I can't figure that out either MichMan Feb 2025 #72

Maybe these folks can hire Sidney Powell to do some digging? I hear she's looking for work. tritsofme Feb 2025 #73

Because it didnt happen here DetroitLegalBeagle Feb 2025 #99

Out of 4 million, it should be easy to find at least a couple million who showed up to vote and were denied MichMan Feb 2025 #78

well, actually E. Normus Feb 2025 #135

Then how did I vote? Polybius Feb 2025 #113

What exit polling? Edison doesn't share the raw data lostnfound Feb 2025 #181

Maybe time to put out 10 million dollar reward for any info that results in conviction (secret name) bluestarone Feb 2025 #51

This is a dead end. MineralMan Feb 2025 #52

No, this is not a dead end. SnoopDog Feb 2025 #57

You think republicana care? Ontheboundry Feb 2025 #88

It's possible to do two things at once biophile Feb 2025 #95

100% something doesn't pass the smell test. Made even worse by the events of the last two weeks. Initech Feb 2025 #54

It shows how weak our system is. If the true winner C Moon Feb 2025 #64

and we know WHO broke it, and WHY. B.See Feb 2025 #71

100 cosign keepthemhonestO Feb 2025 #84

"I don't know how they did it, but in my opinion..." R0ckyRac00n Feb 2025 #85

Beautifully stated ZRB Feb 2025 #96

Do you think Josh Shapiro and Gretchen Whitmer were in on the steal? Self Esteem Feb 2025 #86

Well worth looking into, especially when Trump's oasis Feb 2025 #89

None of that is *evidence* WarGamer Feb 2025 #90

If what you allege is true, why didn't Harris and other Democratic leaders contest the election results? totodeinhere Feb 2025 #91

I don't know, but I do know this, she was eerily Joinfortmill Feb 2025 #102

This isn't worth spending too much time on, but I will make a few comments. Wiz Imp Feb 2025 #93

Do you also believe in Sasquatch, gods, and the Loch Ness Monster? JoseBalow Feb 2025 #94

Why would you believe that someone four years Emile Feb 2025 #98

Yup. And someone knows something. Joinfortmill Feb 2025 #101

Cry, havoc. Ursus Rex Feb 2025 #108

I look at what the orange freak said about, "You'll never have to vote again," Bayard Feb 2025 #112

Plus, ponder how confident Duppers Feb 2025 #116

Can we move this to the Dungeon? Polybius Feb 2025 #115

Creative Speculation is a retired forum, no more posting allowed Celerity Feb 2025 #117

"if Kamala Harris had simply demanded recounts" You need to be within a margin to DEMAND a recount. She wasn't krawhitham Feb 2025 #118

So no proof then? krawhitham Feb 2025 #119

All these conspiracy theories miss one key point. Takket Feb 2025 #125

I will say what I always say here hamsterjill Feb 2025 #132

Of course she won Botany Feb 2025 #133

Couple this with the massive vote suppression paulrevere2018 Feb 2025 #134

Voter suppression Beck23 Feb 2025 #139

More than 3.5 million were removed. live love laugh Feb 2025 #170

Pure fantasy Mountainguy Feb 2025 #141

Amazing how liberal Democrats can morph SCantiGOP Feb 2025 #159

Not all that surprising Mountainguy Feb 2025 #161

Did she not raise a billion dollars? LittleGirl Feb 2025 #142

I totally agree Richluu Feb 2025 #143

It ain't over yet. The steal was huge and implicated a lot of people and countries judesedit Feb 2025 #147

Where we are at this juncture: dchill Feb 2025 #148

Trmp Lost. Vote Suppression Won. By Greg Palast for the Hartmann Report usonian Feb 2025 #149

I agree that this election does not pass the smell test. Jeebo Feb 2025 #154

We had four years to trump proof the US dlilafae Feb 2025 #157

Absolutely, 100%, could not agree more! debsy Feb 2025 #158

This is the 3rd election where they've gamed the votes. Why are we ready to let it pass AGAIN? Greybnk48 Feb 2025 #160

Absolutely Cirsium Feb 2025 #162

I agree 100% BurnDoubt Feb 2025 #166

The Vlad Plan czarjak Feb 2025 #168

This is not helpful. alarimer Feb 2025 #173

Remember, FoxNewsSucks Feb 2025 #174

Ain't it the truth questionseverything Feb 2025 #177

This thread overall is freaking depressing AZJonnie Feb 2025 #178

Pubbies been stealing elections since 2000 MaeScott Feb 2025 #179

I don't need to, but I will anyway, kick & rec your post ReRe Feb 2025 #180

We DemocratSinceBirth Feb 5 #186