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eppur_se_muova

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3. The psychology is interesting, but most of the examples 'debunked' were things I never believed to be true, and ...
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 03:51 AM
Feb 2025

... for the most part, I have never even heard claimed. I guess my worldview is based strongly on what I have seen reasonably well proven, or witnessed for myself, and not just "stuff I heard". I tend not to swallow anything that includes phrases such as "everyone knows" or "I saw a TV program that said so". Then, I'm a scientist. When I read scientific publications, I look for omissions, logical gaps, and errors, and occasionally find them. I've only once been asked to comment on a grant proposal, and found the arguments therein to contain a very deep flaw, but one that could likely be corrected with a little more work.

I was a little nonplussed by the one about GW's dentures, because I had at one point actually seen what were supposed to be his dentures on display. And yes, I (thought I) saw a lot of wood. There was clearly a lot that wasn't wood, including springs which looked to be brass, and it was quite believable that some of the metal I was seeing was gold rather than brass -- after all, gold is exceptionally free from corrosion. The display explained that hippopotamus ivory was used for the actual teeth, which seemed perfectly logical, and the white parts sure looked like they could be ivory. The articles cited suggested horse and donkey teeth were used; it's not clear to me just which parts were made of which. So, what about all that "wood" ? From the sources cited, it appears that the 'palate' part of the dentures was discolored, and that might have been what I saw (I didn't take a picture) as wood, or it might have been that it was some kind of frame for holding the dentures when not in use, kind of like a case. I certainly thought it was too large to fit in anyone's mouth. Comparing my old memory with the articles cited was confusing, but not contradictory. And years before I ever saw those dentures, I had already read that they weren't really wood, or at least not all wood. So it wasn't any belief that was central to my thinking.

I'm not sure what would really contradict my central beliefs -- maybe if the Earth really were flat, or the Moon were really green cheese, or Donald Trump turned out not to be a vile, despicable travesty of an (ostensibly) human being, that might do it.

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Thank you. niyad Feb 2025 #1
very good but I had hoped it would have pointed out that conservative mindest is "fear" of the unknown Shellback Squid Feb 2025 #2
agreed, but at least it helps us to understand WTF is going on it their heads lol TalenaGor Feb 2025 #25
The psychology is interesting, but most of the examples 'debunked' were things I never believed to be true, and ... eppur_se_muova Feb 2025 #3
I was shocked to learn that the information I got about Napoleon Crunchy Frog Feb 2025 #7
Well played. nt eppur_se_muova Feb 2025 #17
Nice. Morbius Feb 2025 #4
I feel as though I have known forever soldierant Feb 2025 #5
Celebrations of Jesus's birth Crunchy Frog Feb 2025 #8
Didn't I say that, in different wording? soldierant Feb 2025 #20
There's probably a third reason jmowreader Feb 2025 #9
I assumed those bits were simple practical life advice... Think. Again. Feb 2025 #11
On that one... jmowreader Feb 2025 #14
I always believed it was a way of extending compassion to animals by recognizing they have families. soldierant Feb 2025 #22
Not really. Most milk products would have been fermented or Crunchy Frog Feb 2025 #15
I am an Agnostic (can't "know" what I can't "prove") who strongly agrees... Think. Again. Feb 2025 #10
It's interesting how many atheists and agnostics soldierant Feb 2025 #21
That's kind of you to say... Think. Again. Feb 2025 #23
I had read that it was the date of Saturnalia, a Roman holiday when slaves were temporarily free to worship ... eppur_se_muova Feb 2025 #18
Midwinter celebrations seemed to be practiced across most religions. Think. Again. Feb 2025 #24
I didn't find it to be particularly applicable to myself. Crunchy Frog Feb 2025 #6
Nicely said. In my own long-winded way, that's sort of what I was trying to say. eppur_se_muova Feb 2025 #19
Thanks for this malaise Feb 2025 #12
I wonder if he still worships Musk like he did here? Hong Kong Cavalier Feb 2025 #13
It looks like that was from 2014. Crunchy Frog Feb 2025 #16
And he got Elon Musk to donate $1 million towards the museum Polybius Feb 2025 #26
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