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soldierant

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5. I feel as though I have known forever
Mon Feb 3, 2025, 04:30 AM
Feb 2025

that 12/25 was not Jesus's birthday, and that in fact no one has the foggiest idea of when it was. 12/25 was selected to be the day to honor is, for tw pretty good reasons, one practical, and one pased on good logic with flawed premises.

The practical one was that every civilization all over the northern hemisphere has had celebrations at that time of the year, and we might as well have one too.

The other one was based on the idea that the year began at the spring equinox. At the time, the Julian calendar was still in force, and though it wasn't quite eleven days off yet, it was off some, and the spring equinox was around March 25. That was considered to be the date upon which the world was created, so it was only reasonable to assume that that was the date upon which the Annunciation happened. And December 25 is exactly 9 months after March 25.

Personally, I am a Christian - one who believes that if a person claims to follow Jesus, they should be acting in accordance with his instructions about how to act, and I endeavor to do so. As such, I do not care in the slightest about what date he may have been born. But I love that story because it's such a charming example iof what humans can some up with by applying hard logic to soft premises. I chuckle every time I think of it.

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Thank you. niyad Feb 2025 #1
very good but I had hoped it would have pointed out that conservative mindest is "fear" of the unknown Shellback Squid Feb 2025 #2
agreed, but at least it helps us to understand WTF is going on it their heads lol TalenaGor Feb 2025 #25
The psychology is interesting, but most of the examples 'debunked' were things I never believed to be true, and ... eppur_se_muova Feb 2025 #3
I was shocked to learn that the information I got about Napoleon Crunchy Frog Feb 2025 #7
Well played. nt eppur_se_muova Feb 2025 #17
Nice. Morbius Feb 2025 #4
I feel as though I have known forever soldierant Feb 2025 #5
Celebrations of Jesus's birth Crunchy Frog Feb 2025 #8
Didn't I say that, in different wording? soldierant Feb 2025 #20
There's probably a third reason jmowreader Feb 2025 #9
I assumed those bits were simple practical life advice... Think. Again. Feb 2025 #11
On that one... jmowreader Feb 2025 #14
I always believed it was a way of extending compassion to animals by recognizing they have families. soldierant Feb 2025 #22
Not really. Most milk products would have been fermented or Crunchy Frog Feb 2025 #15
I am an Agnostic (can't "know" what I can't "prove") who strongly agrees... Think. Again. Feb 2025 #10
It's interesting how many atheists and agnostics soldierant Feb 2025 #21
That's kind of you to say... Think. Again. Feb 2025 #23
I had read that it was the date of Saturnalia, a Roman holiday when slaves were temporarily free to worship ... eppur_se_muova Feb 2025 #18
Midwinter celebrations seemed to be practiced across most religions. Think. Again. Feb 2025 #24
I didn't find it to be particularly applicable to myself. Crunchy Frog Feb 2025 #6
Nicely said. In my own long-winded way, that's sort of what I was trying to say. eppur_se_muova Feb 2025 #19
Thanks for this malaise Feb 2025 #12
I wonder if he still worships Musk like he did here? Hong Kong Cavalier Feb 2025 #13
It looks like that was from 2014. Crunchy Frog Feb 2025 #16
And he got Elon Musk to donate $1 million towards the museum Polybius Feb 2025 #26
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