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Liberal In Texas

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128. Me, for one.

Mon Feb 3, 2025, 06:57 AM

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And from his site:

I rarely make a big deal about my own credentials but, since the election, the Web has been flooded by amateur, arithmetic-defying speculation about computer hacking and other unsupported twaddle. Best to stick to hard, verifiable data. And that’s what I do.

For two decades, I was a forensic economist for government agencies including the US Justice Department; taught statistics at Indiana University; provided expert calculations of vote suppression for the ACLU, NAACP, and RainbowPUSH and won the Global Editors Award for my data journalism on vote suppression measurements for reports done for Al Jazeera, BBC, Rolling Stone and The Guardian. The numbers you get here are exactly what I’d present to a Federal court. In other words, kids, don’t do this at home…calculating the “un-count” requires expertise.

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Kamala Harris Won the 2024 Presidential Election But Had it Stolen from Her. [View all] Frank D. Lincoln Sunday OP

100% agree obamanut2012 Sunday #1

This is not going to be popular here but, the Democrats knew the cheating would happen, they did nothing Escurumbele Monday #137

You are 100% right. lees1975 Monday #145

Musk didn't help in 2020. pandr32 Monday #146

I find it hard to believe that we had a female candidate, but Trump gained 3% among women since the previous election.. Doodley Sunday #2

Forces favoring women's reproductive freedom-- BadgerMom Monday #138

Some women thought their state's laws were enough to protect them. They didn't know SharonAnn Monday #140

Re the results malaise Sunday #3

2024 was rigged from the start Charging Triceratops Sunday #4

Thank you for sharing your thoughts about the PA vote. John1956PA Sunday #32

For a guy who has lied, cheated & stolen his entire life Give Peace A Chance Sunday #47

Sorry, not acting like trump or millions of GOPers who think he won in 2020. It doesn't help at this point. Silent Type Sunday #5

Because she didn't want to seem like Felon-47 Charging Triceratops Sunday #6

Hope we don't develop strategy for future elections based upon not being able to accept we lost. Silent Type Sunday #8

I doubt that there will even be any future elections except for maybe sham elections like in Russia. nt Frank D. Lincoln Sunday #26

No, let's develop strategy based upon being... dchill Sunday #105

Pretend? We lost "bigly." You are seeing result now. Silent Type Sunday #106

This Trump-style delusion and denial of reality is actually quite surreal. tritsofme Sunday #107

You KNOW that's not true, right? dchill Sunday #109

We lost House, Senate, and Presidency? That's big to me. Didn't even win popular vote this time. Silent Type Sunday #110

Gee! How'd THAT happen? dchill Sunday #111

Yup. yellow dahlia Sunday #10

Bullshit. No FUCKING way Kamala would back down if it was "stolen" Maru Kitteh Sunday #79

It isn't that Kamala doesn't have courage... Trueblue Texan Monday #136

Of course she would Cirsium Monday #163

So why didn't he steal 2020? Polybius Sunday #114

He didn't have the tech bros backing then. intheflow Monday #131

Future elections? LOL LR3 Monday #152

I think some said you had to have a reason thinkingagain Sunday #9

She -- like most Democrats -- knew she lost. It was tough, but glad she and Clinton chose not to make a scene. Silent Type Sunday #11

Now the " scene " is woman dying in their cars for the need of a d&c questionseverything Sunday #55

We lost. Silent Type Sunday #100

Not according to Greg Palast ReRe Monday #121

Weird how he doesn't actually link to any source data EdmondDantes_ Monday #126

Thank you. Perhaps I am too trusting. I will look-see. n/t ReRe Monday #129

Like Gore? intheflow Monday #130

I don't think she had evidence the election was stolen. Doodley Sunday #13

1. Did you read the report, yellow dahlia Sunday #14

This message was self-deleted by its author Butterflylady Sunday #15

That's easy.... Butterflylady Sunday #17

Its not about recount, its about 3.5 million red state voters who weren't allowed to vote or whos votes weren't counted yaesu Sunday #18

That Palast junk is even worse BS. I wish Harris were in WH too. But you gotta win first. Silent Type Sunday #20

Palast is a well respected international reporter who provides evidence questionseverything Sunday #103

Well respected by who/whom? Silent Type Sunday #104

Again, check him out ReRe Monday #122

I've read his inaccurate BS since 2016. He has no proof and believes that anyone purged from voter rolls were Silent Type Monday #144

OK. Silent Type. You need to live up to your name ReRe Yesterday #175

I'm 75 and tired of our government not delivering, that goes for our party too. Silent Type 23 hrs ago #182

I lied. I will continue since that was your reply. ReRe 12 hrs ago #183

Your point? I want to win, and I'm ticked we lost, yet people want to promote Palast's BS Silent Type 12 hrs ago #184

You're a soar loser, then. n/t ReRe 11 hrs ago #185

Me, for one. Liberal In Texas Monday #128

No he absolutely doesn't present evidence EdmondDantes_ Monday #127

Never mind Palast Cirsium Monday #165

False equivalency. Frank D. Lincoln Sunday #24

lol, their conspiracy theories had all the same sort of nonsense. This is the exact same as Trump's election denialism. tritsofme Sunday #60

That is no accident Cirsium Monday #164

I was glad to see this report last night. yellow dahlia Sunday #7

I wouldn't put anything past musk..... Butterflylady Sunday #12

You have to wonder edhopper Sunday #16

Trump is an illegitimate president SnoopDog Sunday #19

Excellent point. Frank D. Lincoln Sunday #35

Hell, he was an illegitimate CANDIDATE. He wasn't even legally allowed to run, so he's illegitimate by default. Karasu Sunday #37

Excellent point - Trump committed an insurrection SnoopDog Sunday #41

Also, bomb threats all over the place. n/t ReRe Monday #123

I really don't know what happened, but I do know this Dan Sunday #21

If Al Gore refused to go all the way in then I can't blame Harris. JanMichael Sunday #22

Al Gore collected money for a recount... Hope22 Sunday #28

If that website is Palast's doing, I'd be suspicious. ificandream Sunday #23

This is from the website I linked to in the OP. Frank D. Lincoln Sunday #39

It sounds like what he'd be saying. ificandream Monday #150

You're definitely entitled to your suspicion and opinion. No apologies needed. Frank D. Lincoln Monday #155

Just because it's a conspiracy doesn't mean it's not true. live love laugh Monday #120

I'd give it low credence unless there was absolute solid proof. ificandream Monday #151

Where is it proven that Greg Palast is a conspiracy theorist? ReRe Monday #124

I've never seen any of Palast's stuff go beyond his audience. ificandream Monday #153

Your entire argument is based on your biases and preferences. live love laugh Monday #156

Requiring source evidence isn't a bias EdmondDantes_ Monday #167

Once again you overlook the facts and grasp at loopholes. live love laugh Monday #169

If we don't win the election was stolen. speak easy Sunday #25

Sometimes it's true. FoxNewsSucks Sunday #42

No RandySF Sunday #27

Yes. FoxNewsSucks Sunday #43

Yes obamanut2012 Sunday #80

Musk has more money and resources than anyone, and after 2020, there's no way Trump would settle for anything less than Karasu Sunday #29

Can't disagree. jalan48 Sunday #30

Agree godsentme Sunday #31

scrambled braincells stillcool Sunday #33

Musk had the vote counting tech that Drumpf was raving about. And zero recounts. Just rolled over. Evolve Dammit Sunday #34

What was the undercount in swing states? The Wizard Sunday #36

In retrospect, should Harris have echoed Trump's assertion that, if she lost, she would challenge the results? Mr. Ected Sunday #38

Well, Hillary won in 2016, by the only metric that SHOULD matter--but unfortunately doesn't in this fucking country. Karasu Sunday #49

Yes! Grumpy Old Guy Sunday #40

I Wish This Were Bigger News Mr.Bee Sunday #44

Absolutely. Only an utter idiotic fool FoxNewsSucks Sunday #45

So Harris, Biden, Marc Elias, all Democratic elected officials are "utter idiotic fools" tritsofme Sunday #61

I preached about rising fascism 20 years ago. intheflow Monday #172

The stolen Presidential election was in 2000 in Florida GoreWon2000 Sunday #46

Democrats couldn't contest the election results madville Sunday #48

Both the exit polling and the immediate polls before the election do not support this conclusion andym Sunday #50

They prevented people from voting all together... SnoopDog Sunday #53

But it will show up in general polling as well as opinion polls about the Democratic Party andym Sunday #56

Polling means nothing. SnoopDog Sunday #58

Polling informs us of trends, it just doesn't ultimately count toward winning an election andym Sunday #59

Do you really think you can trust polls nowdays? SnoopDog Sunday #62

"Trust" is too strong a word for polls, rather take them as potentially valid but imprecise data points andym Sunday #74

Well votes were counted, and even states run up and down by Democrats like PA and MI were lost. tritsofme Sunday #63

You cannot count votes that were suppressed by voter suppression... SnoopDog Sunday #65

Why did the Democrats who run those states suppress votes? tritsofme Sunday #66

They didn't. It was republican operatives... SnoopDog Sunday #67

So your argument is that the Democrats who run those states are so incompetent tritsofme Sunday #68

Your 'dems run the state' is a canard... SnoopDog Sunday #69

It's not a "canard" it is simply the truth. This concept can be quite difficult for folks who are susceptible tritsofme Sunday #70

Well, I am not a weak Democrat... I fight for the truth SnoopDog Sunday #75

Nope, this is just Trump-style election denialism. No different at all. tritsofme Sunday #76

So 4 million purged Dem voters had no effect on the election...ok got it... SnoopDog Sunday #77

So no crack at explaining why Democratic elected officials sat back and let it happen? tritsofme Sunday #81

So no crack at explaining 4 million purged Dem voters? SnoopDog Sunday #82

Do you have a single report of a purged voter who was unable to cast ballot in 2024? tritsofme Sunday #83

Oink... SnoopDog Sunday #87

lol, so I guess we'll take that as a hard "no" tritsofme Sunday #92

In Wisconsin (a major swing state) forthemiddle Monday #171

If they had id with the new address questionseverything Yesterday #176

And your evidence for that is???? Palast makes the claim but does not provide any supporting evidence. Wiz Imp Sunday #97

I can't figure that out either MichMan Sunday #72

Maybe these folks can hire Sidney Powell to do some digging? I hear she's looking for work. tritsofme Sunday #73

Because it didnt happen here DetroitLegalBeagle Sunday #99

Out of 4 million, it should be easy to find at least a couple million who showed up to vote and were denied MichMan Sunday #78

well, actually E. Normus Monday #135

Then how did I vote? Polybius Sunday #113

What exit polling? Edison doesn't share the raw data lostnfound Yesterday #181

Maybe time to put out 10 million dollar reward for any info that results in conviction (secret name) bluestarone Sunday #51

This is a dead end. MineralMan Sunday #52

No, this is not a dead end. SnoopDog Sunday #57

You think republicana care? Ontheboundry Sunday #88

It's possible to do two things at once biophile Sunday #95

100% something doesn't pass the smell test. Made even worse by the events of the last two weeks. Initech Sunday #54

It shows how weak our system is. If the true winner C Moon Sunday #64

and we know WHO broke it, and WHY. B.See Sunday #71

100 cosign keepthemhonestO Sunday #84

"I don't know how they did it, but in my opinion..." R0ckyRac00n Sunday #85

Beautifully stated ZRB Sunday #96

Do you think Josh Shapiro and Gretchen Whitmer were in on the steal? Self Esteem Sunday #86

Well worth looking into, especially when Trump's oasis Sunday #89

None of that is *evidence* WarGamer Sunday #90

If what you allege is true, why didn't Harris and other Democratic leaders contest the election results? totodeinhere Sunday #91

I don't know, but I do know this, she was eerily Joinfortmill Sunday #102

This isn't worth spending too much time on, but I will make a few comments. Wiz Imp Sunday #93

Do you also believe in Sasquatch, gods, and the Loch Ness Monster? JoseBalow Sunday #94

Why would you believe that someone four years Emile Sunday #98

Yup. And someone knows something. Joinfortmill Sunday #101

Cry, havoc. Ursus Rex Sunday #108

I look at what the orange freak said about, "You'll never have to vote again," Bayard Sunday #112

Plus, ponder how confident Duppers Sunday #116

Can we move this to the Dungeon? Polybius Sunday #115

Creative Speculation is a retired forum, no more posting allowed Celerity Monday #117

"if Kamala Harris had simply demanded recounts" You need to be within a margin to DEMAND a recount. She wasn't krawhitham Monday #118

So no proof then? krawhitham Monday #119

All these conspiracy theories miss one key point. Takket Monday #125

I will say what I always say here hamsterjill Monday #132

Of course she won Botany Monday #133

Couple this with the massive vote suppression paulrevere2018 Monday #134

Voter suppression Beck23 Monday #139

More than 3.5 million were removed. live love laugh Monday #170

Pure fantasy Mountainguy Monday #141

Amazing how liberal Democrats can morph SCantiGOP Monday #159

Not all that surprising Mountainguy Monday #161

Did she not raise a billion dollars? LittleGirl Monday #142

I totally agree Richluu Monday #143

It ain't over yet. The steal was huge and implicated a lot of people and countries judesedit Monday #147

Where we are at this juncture: dchill Monday #148

Trmp Lost. Vote Suppression Won. By Greg Palast for the Hartmann Report usonian Monday #149

I agree that this election does not pass the smell test. Jeebo Monday #154

We had four years to trump proof the US dlilafae Monday #157

Absolutely, 100%, could not agree more! debsy Monday #158

This is the 3rd election where they've gamed the votes. Why are we ready to let it pass AGAIN? Greybnk48 Monday #160

Absolutely Cirsium Monday #162

I agree 100% BurnDoubt Monday #166

The Vlad Plan czarjak Monday #168

This is not helpful. alarimer Monday #173

Remember, FoxNewsSucks Monday #174

Ain't it the truth questionseverything Yesterday #177

This thread overall is freaking depressing AZJonnie Yesterday #178

Pubbies been stealing elections since 2000 MaeScott Yesterday #179

I don't need to, but I will anyway, kick & rec your post ReRe Yesterday #180

We DemocratSinceBirth 10 hrs ago #186