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146. Musk didn't help in 2020.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Frank D. Lincoln Feb 2 OP

100% agree obamanut2012 Feb 2 #1

This is not going to be popular here but, the Democrats knew the cheating would happen, they did nothing Escurumbele Monday #137

You are 100% right. lees1975 Monday #145

Musk didn't help in 2020. pandr32 Monday #146

I find it hard to believe that we had a female candidate, but Trump gained 3% among women since the previous election.. Doodley Feb 2 #2

Forces favoring women's reproductive freedom-- BadgerMom Monday #138

Some women thought their state's laws were enough to protect them. They didn't know SharonAnn Monday #140

Re the results malaise Feb 2 #3

2024 was rigged from the start Charging Triceratops Feb 2 #4

Thank you for sharing your thoughts about the PA vote. John1956PA Feb 2 #32

For a guy who has lied, cheated & stolen his entire life Give Peace A Chance Feb 2 #47

Sorry, not acting like trump or millions of GOPers who think he won in 2020. It doesn't help at this point. Silent Type Feb 2 #5

Because she didn't want to seem like Felon-47 Charging Triceratops Feb 2 #6

Hope we don't develop strategy for future elections based upon not being able to accept we lost. Silent Type Feb 2 #8

I doubt that there will even be any future elections except for maybe sham elections like in Russia. nt Frank D. Lincoln Feb 2 #26

No, let's develop strategy based upon being... dchill Feb 2 #105

Pretend? We lost "bigly." You are seeing result now. Silent Type Feb 2 #106

This Trump-style delusion and denial of reality is actually quite surreal. tritsofme Feb 2 #107

You KNOW that's not true, right? dchill Feb 2 #109

We lost House, Senate, and Presidency? That's big to me. Didn't even win popular vote this time. Silent Type Feb 2 #110

Gee! How'd THAT happen? dchill Feb 2 #111

Yup. yellow dahlia Feb 2 #10

Bullshit. No FUCKING way Kamala would back down if it was "stolen" Maru Kitteh Feb 2 #79

It isn't that Kamala doesn't have courage... Trueblue Texan Monday #136

Of course she would Cirsium Monday #163

So why didn't he steal 2020? Polybius Feb 2 #114

He didn't have the tech bros backing then. intheflow Monday #131

Future elections? LOL LR3 Monday #152

I think some said you had to have a reason thinkingagain Feb 2 #9

She -- like most Democrats -- knew she lost. It was tough, but glad she and Clinton chose not to make a scene. Silent Type Feb 2 #11

Now the " scene " is woman dying in their cars for the need of a d&c questionseverything Feb 2 #55

We lost. Silent Type Feb 2 #100

Not according to Greg Palast ReRe Monday #121

Weird how he doesn't actually link to any source data EdmondDantes_ Monday #126

Thank you. Perhaps I am too trusting. I will look-see. n/t ReRe Monday #129

Like Gore? intheflow Monday #130

I don't think she had evidence the election was stolen. Doodley Feb 2 #13

1. Did you read the report, yellow dahlia Feb 2 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author Butterflylady Feb 2 #15

That's easy.... Butterflylady Feb 2 #17

Its not about recount, its about 3.5 million red state voters who weren't allowed to vote or whos votes weren't counted yaesu Feb 2 #18

That Palast junk is even worse BS. I wish Harris were in WH too. But you gotta win first. Silent Type Feb 2 #20

Palast is a well respected international reporter who provides evidence questionseverything Feb 2 #103

Well respected by who/whom? Silent Type Feb 2 #104

Again, check him out ReRe Monday #122

I've read his inaccurate BS since 2016. He has no proof and believes that anyone purged from voter rolls were Silent Type Monday #144

OK. Silent Type. You need to live up to your name ReRe Tuesday #175

I'm 75 and tired of our government not delivering, that goes for our party too. Silent Type Tuesday #182

I lied. I will continue since that was your reply. ReRe Tuesday #183

Your point? I want to win, and I'm ticked we lost, yet people want to promote Palast's BS Silent Type Tuesday #184

You're a soar loser, then. n/t ReRe Wednesday #185

Me, for one. Liberal In Texas Monday #128

No he absolutely doesn't present evidence EdmondDantes_ Monday #127

Never mind Palast Cirsium Monday #165

False equivalency. Frank D. Lincoln Feb 2 #24

lol, their conspiracy theories had all the same sort of nonsense. This is the exact same as Trump's election denialism. tritsofme Feb 2 #60

That is no accident Cirsium Monday #164

I was glad to see this report last night. yellow dahlia Feb 2 #7

I wouldn't put anything past musk..... Butterflylady Feb 2 #12

You have to wonder edhopper Feb 2 #16

Trump is an illegitimate president SnoopDog Feb 2 #19

Excellent point. Frank D. Lincoln Feb 2 #35

Hell, he was an illegitimate CANDIDATE. He wasn't even legally allowed to run, so he's illegitimate by default. Karasu Feb 2 #37

Excellent point - Trump committed an insurrection SnoopDog Feb 2 #41

Also, bomb threats all over the place. n/t ReRe Monday #123

I really don't know what happened, but I do know this Dan Feb 2 #21

If Al Gore refused to go all the way in then I can't blame Harris. JanMichael Feb 2 #22

Al Gore collected money for a recount... Hope22 Feb 2 #28

If that website is Palast's doing, I'd be suspicious. ificandream Feb 2 #23

This is from the website I linked to in the OP. Frank D. Lincoln Feb 2 #39

It sounds like what he'd be saying. ificandream Monday #150

You're definitely entitled to your suspicion and opinion. No apologies needed. Frank D. Lincoln Monday #155

Just because it's a conspiracy doesn't mean it's not true. live love laugh Monday #120

I'd give it low credence unless there was absolute solid proof. ificandream Monday #151

Where is it proven that Greg Palast is a conspiracy theorist? ReRe Monday #124

I've never seen any of Palast's stuff go beyond his audience. ificandream Monday #153

Your entire argument is based on your biases and preferences. live love laugh Monday #156

Requiring source evidence isn't a bias EdmondDantes_ Monday #167

Once again you overlook the facts and grasp at loopholes. live love laugh Monday #169

If we don't win the election was stolen. speak easy Feb 2 #25

Sometimes it's true. FoxNewsSucks Feb 2 #42

No RandySF Feb 2 #27

Yes. FoxNewsSucks Feb 2 #43

Yes obamanut2012 Feb 2 #80

Musk has more money and resources than anyone, and after 2020, there's no way Trump would settle for anything less than Karasu Feb 2 #29

Can't disagree. jalan48 Feb 2 #30

Agree godsentme Feb 2 #31

scrambled braincells stillcool Feb 2 #33

Musk had the vote counting tech that Drumpf was raving about. And zero recounts. Just rolled over. Evolve Dammit Feb 2 #34

What was the undercount in swing states? The Wizard Feb 2 #36

In retrospect, should Harris have echoed Trump's assertion that, if she lost, she would challenge the results? Mr. Ected Feb 2 #38

Well, Hillary won in 2016, by the only metric that SHOULD matter--but unfortunately doesn't in this fucking country. Karasu Feb 2 #49

Yes! Grumpy Old Guy Feb 2 #40

I Wish This Were Bigger News Mr.Bee Feb 2 #44

Absolutely. Only an utter idiotic fool FoxNewsSucks Feb 2 #45

So Harris, Biden, Marc Elias, all Democratic elected officials are "utter idiotic fools" tritsofme Feb 2 #61

I preached about rising fascism 20 years ago. intheflow Monday #172

The stolen Presidential election was in 2000 in Florida GoreWon2000 Feb 2 #46

Democrats couldn't contest the election results madville Feb 2 #48

Both the exit polling and the immediate polls before the election do not support this conclusion andym Feb 2 #50

They prevented people from voting all together... SnoopDog Feb 2 #53

But it will show up in general polling as well as opinion polls about the Democratic Party andym Feb 2 #56

Polling means nothing. SnoopDog Feb 2 #58

Polling informs us of trends, it just doesn't ultimately count toward winning an election andym Feb 2 #59

Do you really think you can trust polls nowdays? SnoopDog Feb 2 #62

"Trust" is too strong a word for polls, rather take them as potentially valid but imprecise data points andym Feb 2 #74

Well votes were counted, and even states run up and down by Democrats like PA and MI were lost. tritsofme Feb 2 #63

You cannot count votes that were suppressed by voter suppression... SnoopDog Feb 2 #65

Why did the Democrats who run those states suppress votes? tritsofme Feb 2 #66

They didn't. It was republican operatives... SnoopDog Feb 2 #67

So your argument is that the Democrats who run those states are so incompetent tritsofme Feb 2 #68

Your 'dems run the state' is a canard... SnoopDog Feb 2 #69

It's not a "canard" it is simply the truth. This concept can be quite difficult for folks who are susceptible tritsofme Feb 2 #70

Well, I am not a weak Democrat... I fight for the truth SnoopDog Feb 2 #75

Nope, this is just Trump-style election denialism. No different at all. tritsofme Feb 2 #76

So 4 million purged Dem voters had no effect on the election...ok got it... SnoopDog Feb 2 #77

So no crack at explaining why Democratic elected officials sat back and let it happen? tritsofme Feb 2 #81

So no crack at explaining 4 million purged Dem voters? SnoopDog Feb 2 #82

Do you have a single report of a purged voter who was unable to cast ballot in 2024? tritsofme Feb 2 #83

Oink... SnoopDog Feb 2 #87

lol, so I guess we'll take that as a hard "no" tritsofme Feb 2 #92

In Wisconsin (a major swing state) forthemiddle Monday #171

If they had id with the new address questionseverything Tuesday #176

And your evidence for that is???? Palast makes the claim but does not provide any supporting evidence. Wiz Imp Feb 2 #97

I can't figure that out either MichMan Feb 2 #72

Maybe these folks can hire Sidney Powell to do some digging? I hear she's looking for work. tritsofme Feb 2 #73

Because it didnt happen here DetroitLegalBeagle Feb 2 #99

Out of 4 million, it should be easy to find at least a couple million who showed up to vote and were denied MichMan Feb 2 #78

well, actually E. Normus Monday #135

Then how did I vote? Polybius Feb 2 #113

What exit polling? Edison doesn't share the raw data lostnfound Tuesday #181

Maybe time to put out 10 million dollar reward for any info that results in conviction (secret name) bluestarone Feb 2 #51

This is a dead end. MineralMan Feb 2 #52

No, this is not a dead end. SnoopDog Feb 2 #57

You think republicana care? Ontheboundry Feb 2 #88

It's possible to do two things at once biophile Feb 2 #95

100% something doesn't pass the smell test. Made even worse by the events of the last two weeks. Initech Feb 2 #54

It shows how weak our system is. If the true winner C Moon Feb 2 #64

and we know WHO broke it, and WHY. B.See Feb 2 #71

100 cosign keepthemhonestO Feb 2 #84

"I don't know how they did it, but in my opinion..." R0ckyRac00n Feb 2 #85

Beautifully stated ZRB Feb 2 #96

Do you think Josh Shapiro and Gretchen Whitmer were in on the steal? Self Esteem Feb 2 #86

Well worth looking into, especially when Trump's oasis Feb 2 #89

None of that is *evidence* WarGamer Feb 2 #90

If what you allege is true, why didn't Harris and other Democratic leaders contest the election results? totodeinhere Feb 2 #91

I don't know, but I do know this, she was eerily Joinfortmill Feb 2 #102

This isn't worth spending too much time on, but I will make a few comments. Wiz Imp Feb 2 #93

Do you also believe in Sasquatch, gods, and the Loch Ness Monster? JoseBalow Feb 2 #94

Why would you believe that someone four years Emile Feb 2 #98

Yup. And someone knows something. Joinfortmill Feb 2 #101

Cry, havoc. Ursus Rex Feb 2 #108

I look at what the orange freak said about, "You'll never have to vote again," Bayard Feb 2 #112

Plus, ponder how confident Duppers Feb 2 #116

Can we move this to the Dungeon? Polybius Feb 2 #115

Creative Speculation is a retired forum, no more posting allowed Celerity Monday #117

"if Kamala Harris had simply demanded recounts" You need to be within a margin to DEMAND a recount. She wasn't krawhitham Monday #118

So no proof then? krawhitham Monday #119

All these conspiracy theories miss one key point. Takket Monday #125

I will say what I always say here hamsterjill Monday #132

Of course she won Botany Monday #133

Couple this with the massive vote suppression paulrevere2018 Monday #134

Voter suppression Beck23 Monday #139

More than 3.5 million were removed. live love laugh Monday #170

Pure fantasy Mountainguy Monday #141

Amazing how liberal Democrats can morph SCantiGOP Monday #159

Not all that surprising Mountainguy Monday #161

Did she not raise a billion dollars? LittleGirl Monday #142

I totally agree Richluu Monday #143

It ain't over yet. The steal was huge and implicated a lot of people and countries judesedit Monday #147

Where we are at this juncture: dchill Monday #148

Trmp Lost. Vote Suppression Won. By Greg Palast for the Hartmann Report usonian Monday #149

I agree that this election does not pass the smell test. Jeebo Monday #154

We had four years to trump proof the US dlilafae Monday #157

Absolutely, 100%, could not agree more! debsy Monday #158

This is the 3rd election where they've gamed the votes. Why are we ready to let it pass AGAIN? Greybnk48 Monday #160

Absolutely Cirsium Monday #162

I agree 100% BurnDoubt Monday #166

The Vlad Plan czarjak Monday #168

This is not helpful. alarimer Monday #173

Remember, FoxNewsSucks Monday #174

Ain't it the truth questionseverything Tuesday #177

This thread overall is freaking depressing AZJonnie Tuesday #178

Pubbies been stealing elections since 2000 MaeScott Tuesday #179

I don't need to, but I will anyway, kick & rec your post ReRe Tuesday #180

We DemocratSinceBirth Wednesday #186