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159. So republicans have spent many millions on

Mon Feb 17, 2025, 11:03 PM

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True the vote, to disenfranchise voters but since you say it doesn’t work, it doesn’t matter?

Provisional ballots very rarely get counted

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Don't Lecture Me If I Believe The Election Was Stolen [View all] gab13by13 Feb 2025 OP

K. Nt BootinUp Feb 2025 #1

Amen!!! K&R NT autorank Feb 2025 #165

Doubting malaise agrees malaise Feb 2025 #2

Reason Is My God MayReasonRule Feb 2025 #46

May reason rule malaise Feb 2025 #99

Indeed Malaise... Lie, Cheat, Steal... MayReasonRule Feb 2025 #104

Me too, but also think the fake assassination attempt was totally... CoopersDad Feb 2025 #49

Same here malaise Feb 2025 #68

Count me in!! ailsagirl Feb 2025 #129

Of all the data points, that was the one that pushed me into it possibly being faked. Pacifist Patriot Feb 2025 #69

I'm sure we all remember how he reacted to the bald eagle. 3catwoman3 Feb 2025 #87

Exactly! Pacifist Patriot Feb 2025 #94

And the shooter was promptly eliminated, naturally. hadEnuf Feb 2025 #169

I never saw a body, never heard anything about a funeral, Meadowoak Feb 2025 #182

Of course that is how conspiracies work usaf-vet Feb 2025 #187

Absolutely! Escape Feb 2025 #72

My guess is that they told him they'd be using blanks. dchill Feb 2025 #84

Also, Secret Service agents are not trained to let their Bettie Feb 2025 #102

So they were "in on it" then. Callie1979 Feb 2025 #103

He hand picked his detail Bettie Feb 2025 #105

No kidding Figarosmom Feb 2025 #114

Odd Katcat Feb 2025 #147

Exactly hawkeye21 Feb 2025 #116

Someone died a few feet away. This is Alex Jones level stuff. tritsofme Feb 2025 #120

You mean the bad guys are too good to let a bystander become a victim? CoopersDad Feb 2025 #121

lol, no. You're the one giving them ridiculously too much credit. tritsofme Feb 2025 #122

celebrity apprentice penn gillette does a similar stunt as part of his vegas act rampartd Feb 2025 #168

Yikes, I hadn't encountered this assassin-truther stuff here until today. tritsofme Feb 2025 #172

Unless thinkingagain Feb 2025 #127

Unless thinkingagain Feb 2025 #128

I don't think he would be brave enough to let the bullet get close questionseverything Feb 2025 #160

Doubting True Blue Agrees True Blue American Feb 2025 #62

We're supposed to believe that psychopaths didn't cheat. Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #3

Who also had the capability cilla4progress Feb 2025 #59

Exactly Irish_Dem Feb 2025 #71

We know there was massive disenfranchisement. As to any manipulation, well, I don't know, but... hlthe2b Feb 2025 #4

The Ohio voting systems were hacked in Ohio in the 2004 election gab13by13 Feb 2025 #6

Those at DU then are quite aware of SOS Blackwell... hlthe2b Feb 2025 #11

I was involved in the Green party recount in 2004. I do not trust the card reading programs used. mackdaddy Feb 2025 #30

When anybody questions my... Chemical Bill Feb 2025 #132

Oh yeah, DeWine True Blue American Feb 2025 #63

Elon and his "vote-counting computers," the ones he "knows better than anyone else," and "ended up winning sop Feb 2025 #5

Yes, this! Diamond_Dog Feb 2025 #83

And why did Shitler say he didn't need anyone to vote because he and Eloon have a secret. OMGWTF Feb 2025 #161

Republicans cheat. Turbineguy Feb 2025 #7

I am not convinced it was edhopper Feb 2025 #8

Am not critical if anyone thinks it could've been stolen. It was so close. Looked it up today to allegorical oracle Feb 2025 #75

The difference isnt even that much; just the difference in a few swing states. Callie1979 Feb 2025 #107

Hope party leaders aren't making plans for mid-terms and 2028 based upon "2024 was stolen." Silent Type Feb 2025 #9

I hope they are or we are doomed gab13by13 Feb 2025 #12

Exactly. yellow dahlia Feb 2025 #27

Once again, can you provide just one example of a purged voter showing up at polls and not being able to vote? Silent Type Feb 2025 #37

Millions of legal voters were purged. gab13by13 Feb 2025 #53

So, no examples. Just belief in Palast about purged voters who vast majority of time had moved out of the district. Silent Type Feb 2025 #61

So republicans have spent many millions on questionseverything Feb 2025 #159

Just give me one example of a voter who was purged showing up a polls and being declined. Silent Type Feb 2025 #162

I have seen it personally in Ohio in 2004, 2008, & 2012. Botany Feb 2025 #192

But none in 2024. Heck, Lyndon Johnson "cheated" in his first election. Silent Type Feb 2025 #194

Kurt Vonnegut would say you have a straw man fishing for red herrings Botany Feb 2025 #196

nods head in agreement questionseverything Feb 2025 #198

Thanx for the nod Botany Feb 2025 #200

I live in GA. I've seen no stories of people not being allowed to vote. Callie1979 Feb 2025 #109

A provisional vote very rarely gets counted that is the problem questionseverything Feb 2025 #131

So where are THOSE stories? The hard fact is no polls ever showed Harris winning Callie1979 Feb 2025 #188

We live in an upside down world... billions for campaigns questionseverything Feb 2025 #195

We have people with plenty of money. So why haven't they used it? Callie1979 Feb 2025 #202

The only way ordinary citizens can oversee their elections is to hand count paper ballots in full public view questionseverything Feb 2025 #203

All states have laws regarding recounts. Are you saying we dont need to follow those laws? Callie1979 Feb 2025 #207

Trmp Lost. Vote Suppression Won. By Greg Palast for the Hartmann Report usonian Feb 2025 #10

Eloonatic and his Colossus dickus "won" Clouds Passing Feb 2025 #16

Are we going to use Greg Palast's BS as an excuse everytime we lose for next few decades? That's sure to work. Silent Type Feb 2025 #39

----Like They Stole It! McKim Feb 2025 #181

Not saying yes, or no. BUT i gotta wonder why Marc Elias stands firm on it was not.(anyone know his reasoning?) bluestarone Feb 2025 #13

His reasoning is pretty simple, he doesn't get fooled by completely unsubstantiated Trump-style conspiracy theories. tritsofme Feb 2025 #74

I would hazard a guess that Elias thinks this because it hasn't been proven in a court of law. chowder66 Feb 2025 #190

He didn't have a problem with the bomb scares either questionseverything Feb 2025 #199

It's not like tsf bragged about doing just that in his inaugural Clouds Passing Feb 2025 #14

Living in Ohio has more than taught me Hope22 Feb 2025 #15

My friends in Florida tell me gab13by13 Feb 2025 #21

True words. Nt. Hope22 Feb 2025 #41

by over 100,000!! ElementaryPenguin Feb 2025 #51

Add to that number markodochartaigh Feb 2025 #70

Sent info discounting Bush reason. Blue Full Moon Feb 2025 #42

It has been a long road. Hope22 Feb 2025 #48

Agreed Blue Full Moon Feb 2025 #58

I have no doubt. 58Sunliner Feb 2025 #17

Algorithms steal the ballot box by influencing behavior JCMach1 Feb 2025 #18

I have said that since November 6th... PittBlue Feb 2025 #19

Never. Too many things have happened in this country that most people swore did not happen. OldBaldy1701E Feb 2025 #20

I don't know if it was stolen or not. But I do know Bluetus Feb 2025 #22

Exactly This Deep State Witch Feb 2025 #23

I don't cotton to a discussion board telling me I am not "allowed" to believe something LizBeth Feb 2025 #24

The OP advised you not to lecture OP Ponietz Feb 2025 #26

I was agreeing with the OP. That some of us believe it was stolen LizBeth Feb 2025 #92

I have zero problem with people who believe the election was fair. gab13by13 Feb 2025 #32

There's not a rule against spreading conspiracy theories. tritsofme Feb 2025 #76

There actually is a rule. Check the TOS. n/t Ms. Toad Feb 2025 #86

I was about to say the same radical noodle Feb 2025 #112

thread winner Abraham Slender Feb 2025 #88

What do you mean by that? GP6971 Feb 2025 #113

I am agreeing with you. I thought it stolen also and we are told we are not suppose to believe LizBeth Feb 2025 #93

im more and more inclined to believe it quakerboy Feb 2025 #25

Musk just earlier told India about their election Blue Full Moon Feb 2025 #36

Other things Trump has bragged about EdmondDantes_ Feb 2025 #193

AMEN! AND exactly! Leave us not forget the bomb threats that were ONLY in democratic strongholds in SWING STATES, The_REAL_Ecumenist Feb 2025 #28

Those bullet ballots will haunt me forever. Vinca Feb 2025 #29

The bullet ballot theory was immediately disproven EdmondDantes_ Feb 2025 #125

I almost wonder if that post was intended as satire? Because "bullet ballots" was perhaps the silliest of the nonsense tritsofme Feb 2025 #143

What are bullet ballots? Dynamic Unicorn Feb 2025 #141

The Brookings Institute describes them. ancianita Feb 2025 #144

Thank you! Dynamic Unicorn Feb 2025 #146

Not a problem! Welcome to DU! ancianita Feb 2025 #148

Republican IT specialist dies in plane crash Blue Full Moon Feb 2025 #31

Coincidence, I guess. gab13by13 Feb 2025 #33

It seems to be the way republicans silence. Blue Full Moon Feb 2025 #35

Mike Connell, GovTech Solutions PLANE CRASH suegeo Feb 2025 #67

Forgot this gem. Bush's gag order Blue Full Moon Feb 2025 #34

I don't believe it was rigged,stolen whatever...never will Bengus81 Feb 2025 #38

Ummm do you remember Georgia... Hope22 Feb 2025 #45

The difference is the incumbent Trump knew 100% he had the 2020 election in the bag Bengus81 Feb 2025 #98

.....Arizona....I think some of his peeps went to jail. Hope22 Feb 2025 #180

The thing is, none of this is up to him. BlueTsunami2018 Feb 2025 #123

And "they" didn't think to do the same in downstream races? EdmondDantes_ Feb 2025 #152

You are correct. Trump is an ass and would not be in charge of any vote tampering. hadEnuf Feb 2025 #175

Why I disagree Metaphorical Feb 2025 #133

Is this on us because dems didn't insist on an audit of election results? flamingdem Feb 2025 #40

No lectures from me 😹 Meowmee Feb 2025 #43

It's who we are as a country stillcool Feb 2025 #44

Watching cars go by... Celerity Feb 2025 #64

Global fortunes, corporations, and oligarchs aren't likely to just trust one country's quaint election system without wiggs Feb 2025 #47

i also feel that it was bought by musk and the kotchs . AllaN01Bear Feb 2025 #50

It was, read Greg Palast Eliot Rosewater Feb 2025 #52

I read it. Dynamic Unicorn Feb 2025 #140

Palast has links to everything he sites questionseverything Feb 2025 #158

I just read through his claims again. Dynamic Unicorn Feb 2025 #170

For 30 years palast has been an investigating reporter for questionseverything Feb 2025 #197

I am not questioning his credentials. Dynamic Unicorn Feb 2025 #201

I live in a town in South Jersey and never waited more than 30 minutes to vote. 2024 the line was 4 hours in some areas. Pepsidog Feb 2025 #54

In Western PA, undocumented cash bought a million yard signs for Trump. John1956PA Feb 2025 #80

Where is Kamala Harris on this? GreenWave Feb 2025 #55

Thinking about the future, not wallowing in ridiculous Trump-style election denial conspiracy theories. tritsofme Feb 2025 #77

There may be no future, given the control Trump now has over the Federal government. pnwmom Feb 2025 #118

None of them were particularly curious. tritsofme Feb 2025 #119

I really think no one will ever know what was happening in the states that had the mysterious bomb threats pnwmom Feb 2025 #153

Unless we can find proof the point is moot really neohippie Feb 2025 #56

Yeah, well, unless we believe, nobody will bother to KPN Feb 2025 #184

I've been looking neohippie Feb 2025 #189

Can't find proof without looking as far as I know KPN Feb 2025 #191

Completely agree cilla4progress Feb 2025 #57

I strongly believe it was stolen annielion Feb 2025 #60

2020-2024: Denying election results is a dangerous norm violation Jose Garcia Feb 2025 #65

People believing things that aren't true is how we got here in the first place. alarimer Feb 2025 #179

Same question I ask Republicans who say 2020 was stolen. Mountainguy Feb 2025 #66

Karl Rove said they could onoy cheat if it was close IbogaProject Feb 2025 #134

Funny Mountainguy Feb 2025 #149

Obama said, " we have to beat them so bad there is no doubt " questionseverything Feb 2025 #204

Jeeze, not yet more of this shit... reACTIONary Feb 2025 #73

No lectures here. BlueKota Feb 2025 #78

If Musk and the baby goons can hack into the Treasury and a New York bank Greybnk48 Feb 2025 #79

I read that also HappyH Feb 2025 #81

You'll never convince me that musty and his tech bois didn't flip the votes. Lunabell Feb 2025 #82

and then Republican Senator Chuck Nagel mokeyz Feb 2025 #85

Oh yes....what a nefarious character...a former Obama Defense Secretary! lol tritsofme Feb 2025 #89

So long as you accept that disagreement is not necessarily lecturing TheProle Feb 2025 #90

I have major suspicions mvd Feb 2025 #91

If you don't want to be lectured Progressive dog Feb 2025 #95

No argument for me. Susan Calvin Feb 2025 #96

it was stolen 4catsmom Feb 2025 #97

Totally agree keepthemhonestO Feb 2025 #100

maga claims the same about 2020 krawhitham Feb 2025 #101

I would not do that. Sucha NastyWoman Feb 2025 #106

gab13by13 is right on here. It's OK to say the election was stolen because it was. flashman13 Feb 2025 #108

There's a HowSpecialIsThis Feb 2025 #110

Total Presidential Votes: 2020 158,383,403 vs 2024 155,238,302 SnoopDog Feb 2025 #111

Of course less voted, and it was always expected that less would vote Polybius Feb 2025 #155

Covid lead to INCREASED voter turnout LeftInTX Feb 2025 #171

So, you proved my point. SnoopDog Feb 2025 #186

Agree Figarosmom Feb 2025 #115

Elon Musk used a team of Starlink equipped AI powered Cybertrucks to manipulate the results Bonx Feb 2025 #117

Don't forget 2016 MorbidButterflyTat Feb 2025 #124

I wouldn't because I do as well. bullimiami Feb 2025 #126

You'll get no argument from me... only way it makes sense!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2025 #130

It's the only way they can 'win' Blue Owl Feb 2025 #135

Right there with ya MorbidButterflyTat Feb 2025 #142

I agree. ERW Feb 2025 #136

I agree and I think we should be screaming it from the rooftops. They have started to use words c-rational Feb 2025 #137

I agree with you. ananda Feb 2025 #138

K&R spanone Feb 2025 #139

No push back from me, even though I may not agree with you. FHRRK Feb 2025 #145

We have had the wrong message re: 2020 election V850i Feb 2025 #150

Elon said it's easy to change a computer program annielion Feb 2025 #151

"Musk and the Russian GRU stole the election for Trump" red dog 1 Feb 2025 #154

"Every Republican since Nixon was elected by cheating. All of them. This time was no different. red dog 1 Feb 2025 #156

How did Reagan cheat in the 1984 election when he got 62% of the vote? totodeinhere Feb 2025 #205

Reagan cheated in 1980 by subterfuge and treasonous acts by his campaign team. red dog 1 Feb 2025 #206

Yes, I am aware of 1980. I was referring to Reagans's landslide victory in 1984. totodeinhere Feb 2025 #209

You're right, he didn't have to cheat in 1984, only because the Democratic Party was a divided party that year. red dog 1 Feb 2025 #210

In 1984, former Vice President Walter Mondale was challenged in the primaries by Senator Gary Hart red dog 1 Feb 2025 #208

The 1876 and 1888 elections also had stolen claims Polybius Feb 2025 #157

However, I do believe that one of LBJ's senate primaries "could" have been stolen. Not many checks and balances LeftInTX Feb 2025 #174

I agree with you karin_sj Feb 2025 #163

If Democrats are going to be irrational conspiracy nuts too- R0ckyRac00n Feb 2025 #164

I think it was likely stolen I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2025 #166

I believe it too in spite of my familys' insistence that I'm just loony that way. lark Feb 2025 #167

Same OnionPatch Feb 2025 #173

Trump whined about a rigged election from the start. lees1975 Feb 2025 #176

Republicans ALWAYS Cheat Kid Berwyn Feb 2025 #177

How was PA "stolen"? PennRalphie Feb 2025 #178

Evidence? Martin68 Feb 2025 #183

Sorry, but that's not how a discussion board works. onenote Feb 2025 #185