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In reply to the discussion: Don't Lecture Me If I Believe The Election Was Stolen [View all]
Hope22
(4,014 posts)180. .....Arizona....I think some of his peeps went to jail.
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Of all the data points, that was the one that pushed me into it possibly being faked.
Pacifist Patriot
Feb 2025
#69
celebrity apprentice penn gillette does a similar stunt as part of his vegas act
rampartd
Feb 2025
#168
I don't think he would be brave enough to let the bullet get close
questionseverything
Feb 2025
#160
We know there was massive disenfranchisement. As to any manipulation, well, I don't know, but...
hlthe2b
Feb 2025
#4
I was involved in the Green party recount in 2004. I do not trust the card reading programs used.
mackdaddy
Feb 2025
#30
Elon and his "vote-counting computers," the ones he "knows better than anyone else," and "ended up winning
sop
Feb 2025
#5
And why did Shitler say he didn't need anyone to vote because he and Eloon have a secret.
OMGWTF
Feb 2025
#161
Am not critical if anyone thinks it could've been stolen. It was so close. Looked it up today to
allegorical oracle
Feb 2025
#75
The difference isnt even that much; just the difference in a few swing states.
Callie1979
Feb 2025
#107
Hope party leaders aren't making plans for mid-terms and 2028 based upon "2024 was stolen."
Silent Type
Feb 2025
#9
Once again, can you provide just one example of a purged voter showing up at polls and not being able to vote?
Silent Type
Feb 2025
#37
So, no examples. Just belief in Palast about purged voters who vast majority of time had moved out of the district.
Silent Type
Feb 2025
#61
Just give me one example of a voter who was purged showing up a polls and being declined.
Silent Type
Feb 2025
#162
So where are THOSE stories? The hard fact is no polls ever showed Harris winning
Callie1979
Feb 2025
#188
The only way ordinary citizens can oversee their elections is to hand count paper ballots in full public view
questionseverything
Feb 2025
#203
All states have laws regarding recounts. Are you saying we dont need to follow those laws?
Callie1979
Feb 2025
#207
Are we going to use Greg Palast's BS as an excuse everytime we lose for next few decades? That's sure to work.
Silent Type
Feb 2025
#39
Not saying yes, or no. BUT i gotta wonder why Marc Elias stands firm on it was not.(anyone know his reasoning?)
bluestarone
Feb 2025
#13
His reasoning is pretty simple, he doesn't get fooled by completely unsubstantiated Trump-style conspiracy theories.
tritsofme
Feb 2025
#74
I would hazard a guess that Elias thinks this because it hasn't been proven in a court of law.
chowder66
Feb 2025
#190
Never. Too many things have happened in this country that most people swore did not happen.
OldBaldy1701E
Feb 2025
#20
I don't cotton to a discussion board telling me I am not "allowed" to believe something
LizBeth
Feb 2025
#24
I am agreeing with you. I thought it stolen also and we are told we are not suppose to believe
LizBeth
Feb 2025
#93
AMEN! AND exactly! Leave us not forget the bomb threats that were ONLY in democratic strongholds in SWING STATES,
The_REAL_Ecumenist
Feb 2025
#28
I almost wonder if that post was intended as satire? Because "bullet ballots" was perhaps the silliest of the nonsense
tritsofme
Feb 2025
#143
The difference is the incumbent Trump knew 100% he had the 2020 election in the bag
Bengus81
Feb 2025
#98
You are correct. Trump is an ass and would not be in charge of any vote tampering.
hadEnuf
Feb 2025
#175
Global fortunes, corporations, and oligarchs aren't likely to just trust one country's quaint election system without
wiggs
Feb 2025
#47
I live in a town in South Jersey and never waited more than 30 minutes to vote. 2024 the line was 4 hours in some areas.
Pepsidog
Feb 2025
#54
Thinking about the future, not wallowing in ridiculous Trump-style election denial conspiracy theories.
tritsofme
Feb 2025
#77
There may be no future, given the control Trump now has over the Federal government.
pnwmom
Feb 2025
#118
I really think no one will ever know what was happening in the states that had the mysterious bomb threats
pnwmom
Feb 2025
#153
People believing things that aren't true is how we got here in the first place.
alarimer
Feb 2025
#179
gab13by13 is right on here. It's OK to say the election was stolen because it was.
flashman13
Feb 2025
#108
Elon Musk used a team of Starlink equipped AI powered Cybertrucks to manipulate the results
Bonx
Feb 2025
#117
I agree and I think we should be screaming it from the rooftops. They have started to use words
c-rational
Feb 2025
#137
"Every Republican since Nixon was elected by cheating. All of them. This time was no different.
red dog 1
Feb 2025
#156
Reagan cheated in 1980 by subterfuge and treasonous acts by his campaign team.
red dog 1
Feb 2025
#206
Yes, I am aware of 1980. I was referring to Reagans's landslide victory in 1984.
totodeinhere
Feb 2025
#209
You're right, he didn't have to cheat in 1984, only because the Democratic Party was a divided party that year.
red dog 1
Feb 2025
#210
In 1984, former Vice President Walter Mondale was challenged in the primaries by Senator Gary Hart
red dog 1
Feb 2025
#208
However, I do believe that one of LBJ's senate primaries "could" have been stolen. Not many checks and balances
LeftInTX
Feb 2025
#174