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(50,239 posts) Fri Mar 14, 2025, 05:26 PM Mar 14

I read EarlG post and am convinced that the senate has to vote YES [View all]

https://www.democraticunderground.com/13242593

I'll throw my 2 cents of criticism

Seems to me that there are bad outcomes no matter which way Senate Democrats vote on the CR. Blocking the CR will shut down the government, which will give Trump the opportunity to declare a national emergency and do whatever the hell he wants. If the government is shut down for more than 30 days, it becomes much easier to fire federal employees. And Trump will blame every single thing that has gone wrong over the past couple of months, including the crashing stock market, on the fact that "Democrats shut down the government." I can see why Democrats wouldn't want to hand Trump that weapon.

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Thank you EarlG

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I read EarlG post and am convinced that the senate has to vote YES [View all] question everything Mar 14 OP

Thanks, but to be clear EarlG Mar 14 #1

i know. We are screwed but I think that yes is the lesser of two evils question everything Mar 14 #10

So the vast majority of Dems in the House and Senate were wrong? HereForTheParty Mar 15 #76

Certainly the ones up for reelection question everything Mar 15 #77

Sometimes doing the right thing choie Mar 15 #82

I didn't read your post as an endorsement senseandsensibility Mar 14 #16

I read EarlG's post as saying Schumer didn't handle it well and "the buck" stops with Schumer. TomSlick Mar 14 #27

The federal courts, dude, will be funded and save granny. If "the buck" stops now, will the thanks be given later? ancianita Mar 14 #41

There is no constitutional requirement to fund Medicaid. TomSlick Mar 14 #44

OR Social Security, OR Medicare, OR all the agencies a shutdown would destroy. ancianita Mar 14 #46

I know that you will lose every battle from which you run. TomSlick Mar 14 #48

I certainly won't engage in friendly fire when I do. You'd have thought you won the battle but you'd have ancianita Mar 14 #50

Schumer didn't win any battle today because he didn't fight one. TomSlick Mar 14 #62

You're already wrong and don't even know it. ancianita Mar 14 #64

I am not so foolish as to confidently predict the future. Only time will tell. TomSlick Mar 14 #65

It's exactly what you did. ancianita Mar 14 #67

It must be a terrible burden to be the smartest person on DU. TomSlick Mar 14 #75

lol just a faithful Democrat supporting Democrats ancianita Mar 15 #87

Granny will be on the curb in no time. waterwatcher123 Mar 14 #68

I'm in the granny demographic, so I'll weigh in and say they will be killed by corporate owned ancianita Mar 14 #71

Medicaid pays for nursing home coverage for many elderly people in the United States. waterwatcher123 Mar 15 #81

Understood. ancianita Mar 15 #88

That might be true Katcat Mar 14 #25

Wrong. n/t valleyrogue Mar 14 #52

I thought about it XanaDUer2 Mar 14 #2

I'm not sure. If it so easy to enable Trump GOD Mode, the Republicans would be shutting the gubmint down ASAP. TheBlackAdder Mar 14 #38

I respect that opinion, Quiet Em Mar 14 #3

He is going to do that anyhow. boston bean Mar 14 #17

He already has to support his tariffs. He declared an emergency because of "fentanyl" Nanjeanne Mar 14 #63

Seems damned if you do, damned if you don't to me. paleotn Mar 14 #22

Yeah. Quiet Em Mar 14 #33

Exactly! Why would you ever give away leverage? n/t returnee Mar 14 #61

I agree... 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 14 #4

As does mine. paleotn Mar 14 #23

Thanks! And misery loves company! 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 14 #47

We are not the governing majority. mr715 Mar 14 #5

They put their names on the bill iemanja Mar 14 #8

Yes, exactly. mr715 Mar 14 #9

That includes Angus King and Jeanne Shaheen, who actually voted Yes on the final bill itself. Celerity Mar 14 #20

Exactly. Schumer owns the bill. TomSlick Mar 14 #30

EXACTLY. THANK YOU. ancianita Mar 14 #45

I don't think we agree mr715 Mar 14 #53

You might think so, ancianita Mar 14 #59

Not sure that was the point of the OP leftstreet Mar 14 #6

Not on funding through Sept 30 iemanja Mar 14 #7

So Trump and the MSM wouldn't blame a shutdown on Dems? paleotn Mar 14 #24

Are they incapable of making an argument? iemanja Mar 14 #70

No. These Democrats cosigned on dramatic social program cuts. Self Esteem Mar 14 #11

Then we get to explain mr715 Mar 14 #12

Yup! Self Esteem Mar 14 #13

Omg. Let's hope that something has been done Alliepoo Mar 14 #18

Fetterman has already said he will never, ever, ever displacedvermoter Mar 14 #34

Fetterman didn't vote for the CR MichMan Mar 14 #74

He voted for cloture, so split the fucking difference displacedvermoter Mar 15 #86

The difference now angrychair Mar 14 #14

Oh ok BannonsLiver Mar 14 #15

How badly we lost with this no-win vote depends on how much more this administration allegorical oracle Mar 14 #19

Chuck Schumer Had Two Bad Choices. He Made the Worse One Celerity Mar 14 #21

We have to burn down the house so we won't be blamed for burning down the house. Iggo Mar 14 #26

We WON'T be blamed either way. WE are the MINORITY PARTY. This is ALL on the GOP & its owners. ancianita Mar 14 #29

The CR is a bipartisan bill because Schumer voted for it. TomSlick Mar 14 #31

Go ahead. Blame your own minority party leadership. Now what. ancianita Mar 14 #32

I blame them for not leading. TomSlick Mar 14 #37

Flog on, flog on, flog on. ancianita Mar 14 #40

Stop the bullshit. You blame them for not leading the way YOU want. ancianita Mar 14 #43

Courts, dude. Vote to shut down government, and you "united NO's" will shut down the courts. AND then ancianita Mar 14 #39

No he didn't MichMan Mar 14 #72

he only voted for cloture. there were 2 non republicans who voted for the bill itself: shaheen & king orleans Mar 15 #83

It Only Reinforces The Image of Dems As Watery Weaklings DrFunkenstein Mar 14 #35

WHAT "only reinforces the Image." WE ARE NOT WHAT WE ARE CALLED. WE ARE WHAT WE ANSWER TO. ancianita Mar 14 #36

Dems were haunted for years over voting for the AUMF that let Bush go to war with Iraq DSandra Mar 15 #80

I didn't say "It's all on the Dems." Iggo Mar 15 #90

Not to mention that a shut down would shut down all federal courts which are the legal record ancianita Mar 14 #28

Our government and society shouldn't be run based on the fear of what Trump and his goons might do. Ping Tung Mar 14 #42

Being blamed for the shutdown won't work, either. valleyrogue Mar 14 #54

WE WOULD BE BLAMED EITHER WAY Skittles Mar 14 #58

But here we are ... sadly. KPN Mar 14 #57

Whatever happened to the belief in the statement BlueKota Mar 14 #49

You think it would have been okay to shut down ALL services. valleyrogue Mar 14 #55

He's going to do it anyway BlueKota Mar 14 #66

It is correct. valleyrogue Mar 14 #51

It was shitty option vs shittier option. Initech Mar 14 #56

Not my conclusion but oh well mountain grammy Mar 14 #60

I am not going to. BlueKota Mar 14 #69

What are you talking about? voted4wellstone Mar 14 #73

Please consider this . . Stargleamer Mar 15 #78

They could've at least shut it down and accused Republicans of conducting a coup... DSandra Mar 15 #79

That was my opinion, too. Vinca Mar 15 #84

More evidence that the executive has way too much power in this system Meowmee Mar 15 #85

Oh no - they'll get blamed? Horrifying Ruby the Liberal Mar 15 #89