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21. Chuck Schumer Had Two Bad Choices. He Made the Worse One

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Fri Mar 14, 2025, 07:33 PM

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I read EarlG post and am convinced that the senate has to vote YES [View all] question everything Mar 14 OP

Thanks, but to be clear EarlG Mar 14 #1

i know. We are screwed but I think that yes is the lesser of two evils question everything Mar 14 #10

So the vast majority of Dems in the House and Senate were wrong? HereForTheParty Mar 15 #76

Certainly the ones up for reelection question everything Mar 15 #77

Sometimes doing the right thing choie Mar 15 #82

I didn't read your post as an endorsement senseandsensibility Mar 14 #16

I read EarlG's post as saying Schumer didn't handle it well and "the buck" stops with Schumer. TomSlick Mar 14 #27

The federal courts, dude, will be funded and save granny. If "the buck" stops now, will the thanks be given later? ancianita Mar 14 #41

There is no constitutional requirement to fund Medicaid. TomSlick Mar 14 #44

OR Social Security, OR Medicare, OR all the agencies a shutdown would destroy. ancianita Mar 14 #46

I know that you will lose every battle from which you run. TomSlick Mar 14 #48

I certainly won't engage in friendly fire when I do. You'd have thought you won the battle but you'd have ancianita Mar 14 #50

Schumer didn't win any battle today because he didn't fight one. TomSlick Mar 14 #62

You're already wrong and don't even know it. ancianita Mar 14 #64

I am not so foolish as to confidently predict the future. Only time will tell. TomSlick Mar 14 #65

It's exactly what you did. ancianita Mar 14 #67

It must be a terrible burden to be the smartest person on DU. TomSlick Mar 14 #75

lol just a faithful Democrat supporting Democrats ancianita Mar 15 #87

Granny will be on the curb in no time. waterwatcher123 Mar 14 #68

I'm in the granny demographic, so I'll weigh in and say they will be killed by corporate owned ancianita Mar 14 #71

Medicaid pays for nursing home coverage for many elderly people in the United States. waterwatcher123 Mar 15 #81

Understood. ancianita Mar 15 #88

That might be true Katcat Mar 14 #25

Wrong. n/t valleyrogue Mar 14 #52

I thought about it XanaDUer2 Mar 14 #2

I'm not sure. If it so easy to enable Trump GOD Mode, the Republicans would be shutting the gubmint down ASAP. TheBlackAdder Mar 14 #38

I respect that opinion, Quiet Em Mar 14 #3

He is going to do that anyhow. boston bean Mar 14 #17

He already has to support his tariffs. He declared an emergency because of "fentanyl" Nanjeanne Mar 14 #63

Seems damned if you do, damned if you don't to me. paleotn Mar 14 #22

Yeah. Quiet Em Mar 14 #33

Exactly! Why would you ever give away leverage? n/t returnee Mar 14 #61

I agree... 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 14 #4

As does mine. paleotn Mar 14 #23

Thanks! And misery loves company! 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 14 #47

We are not the governing majority. mr715 Mar 14 #5

They put their names on the bill iemanja Mar 14 #8

Yes, exactly. mr715 Mar 14 #9

That includes Angus King and Jeanne Shaheen, who actually voted Yes on the final bill itself. Celerity Mar 14 #20

Exactly. Schumer owns the bill. TomSlick Mar 14 #30

EXACTLY. THANK YOU. ancianita Mar 14 #45

I don't think we agree mr715 Mar 14 #53

You might think so, ancianita Mar 14 #59

Not sure that was the point of the OP leftstreet Mar 14 #6

Not on funding through Sept 30 iemanja Mar 14 #7

So Trump and the MSM wouldn't blame a shutdown on Dems? paleotn Mar 14 #24

Are they incapable of making an argument? iemanja Mar 14 #70

No. These Democrats cosigned on dramatic social program cuts. Self Esteem Mar 14 #11

Then we get to explain mr715 Mar 14 #12

Yup! Self Esteem Mar 14 #13

Omg. Let's hope that something has been done Alliepoo Mar 14 #18

Fetterman has already said he will never, ever, ever displacedvermoter Mar 14 #34

Fetterman didn't vote for the CR MichMan Mar 14 #74

He voted for cloture, so split the fucking difference displacedvermoter Mar 15 #86

The difference now angrychair Mar 14 #14

Oh ok BannonsLiver Mar 14 #15

How badly we lost with this no-win vote depends on how much more this administration allegorical oracle Mar 14 #19

Chuck Schumer Had Two Bad Choices. He Made the Worse One Celerity Mar 14 #21

We have to burn down the house so we won't be blamed for burning down the house. Iggo Mar 14 #26

We WON'T be blamed either way. WE are the MINORITY PARTY. This is ALL on the GOP & its owners. ancianita Mar 14 #29

The CR is a bipartisan bill because Schumer voted for it. TomSlick Mar 14 #31

Go ahead. Blame your own minority party leadership. Now what. ancianita Mar 14 #32

I blame them for not leading. TomSlick Mar 14 #37

Flog on, flog on, flog on. ancianita Mar 14 #40

Stop the bullshit. You blame them for not leading the way YOU want. ancianita Mar 14 #43

Courts, dude. Vote to shut down government, and you "united NO's" will shut down the courts. AND then ancianita Mar 14 #39

No he didn't MichMan Mar 14 #72

he only voted for cloture. there were 2 non republicans who voted for the bill itself: shaheen & king orleans Mar 15 #83

It Only Reinforces The Image of Dems As Watery Weaklings DrFunkenstein Mar 14 #35

WHAT "only reinforces the Image." WE ARE NOT WHAT WE ARE CALLED. WE ARE WHAT WE ANSWER TO. ancianita Mar 14 #36

Dems were haunted for years over voting for the AUMF that let Bush go to war with Iraq DSandra Mar 15 #80

I didn't say "It's all on the Dems." Iggo Mar 15 #90

Not to mention that a shut down would shut down all federal courts which are the legal record ancianita Mar 14 #28

Our government and society shouldn't be run based on the fear of what Trump and his goons might do. Ping Tung Mar 14 #42

Being blamed for the shutdown won't work, either. valleyrogue Mar 14 #54

WE WOULD BE BLAMED EITHER WAY Skittles Mar 14 #58

But here we are ... sadly. KPN Mar 14 #57

Whatever happened to the belief in the statement BlueKota Mar 14 #49

You think it would have been okay to shut down ALL services. valleyrogue Mar 14 #55

He's going to do it anyway BlueKota Mar 14 #66

It is correct. valleyrogue Mar 14 #51

It was shitty option vs shittier option. Initech Mar 14 #56

Not my conclusion but oh well mountain grammy Mar 14 #60

I am not going to. BlueKota Mar 14 #69

What are you talking about? voted4wellstone Mar 14 #73

Please consider this . . Stargleamer Mar 15 #78

They could've at least shut it down and accused Republicans of conducting a coup... DSandra Mar 15 #79

That was my opinion, too. Vinca Mar 15 #84

More evidence that the executive has way too much power in this system Meowmee Mar 15 #85

Oh no - they'll get blamed? Horrifying Ruby the Liberal Mar 15 #89