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indusurb

(75 posts)
27. Ah, I see, anybody concerned about the state of our leadership are ratfuckers, how convenient.
Sun Mar 16, 2025, 11:32 AM
Mar 16

Look, there was a tacit understanding in 2020 that Biden was going to be one and done, mainly due to his age. When he announced he was going for reelection, yes, there was concern because there had already been signs that his mentation had slipped a gear or two. But when he came out for that debate, it became obvious to the whole world, and something had to be done, because the public wasn't going to elect a man whose mind was so obviously failing. Yes, Trump was, and is, showing the same signs, but he's sounded so out there for the past fifteen years, who can really tell, he's just crazy.

As for as Jefferies and Schumer go, look, people have been looking for leadership since Trump got elected, people to fight both with and for them. Yet here's Jefferies out there basically repeating the refrain from the Bush years, keep the powder dry, no matter what. And Schumer, when we finally get leverage, when the polls are in our favor, when politicians and the public are ready for a fight that we could win, Schumer, in the space of a day, whipsaws from advocating against the CR and fighting to capitulation and voting for it.

Damn right, people are going to be pissed at those two and now demanding new leadership. This isn't ratfuckery, this is people feeling abandoned and alone in the midst of a shitstorm, realizing that our so called leaders aren't going to help and it's up to us to get the US out of this mess, when the public at large holds very few levers of power, far fewer than the Democratic party does, even when they're in the minority.

Did Mitch McConnel, curse his black heart, roll over when the Pugs were in the minority? No, he grabbed every lever of power, dug up every obscure rule he could find and blocked almost all of Obama's agenda, even when we had the super majority. He even stole a Supreme Court nomination from Obama. If he can do that, then why can't we? We need fighters in leadership, ready to get down and dirty to do what is best for the country, not milquetoast polite placeholders who strictly adhere to Marquise of Queensbury rules while the country burns and people die.

The times are desperate, and it is time either lead, follow or get the hell out of the way. That's not ratfuckery, that's reality. Deal with it.

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So you're happy with Schumer's and Jefferie's leadership. Got it. nt Phoenix61 Mar 15 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Mar 15 #3
If the horse you're on is drowning it's the only smart thing to do. mt Phoenix61 Mar 15 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Mar 15 #5
Not the party, the leadership. Huge difference! Phoenix61 Mar 15 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Mar 15 #10
Sincere apologies, I didn't understand you took wanting new Phoenix61 Mar 15 #15
It's not about talking down the party. It about squarely looking jrthin Mar 15 #11
But we're not midstream EarlG Mar 15 #17
We have posts in support of Ralph Nader now. LeftInTX Mar 17 #38
Totally agree. There's no "conversation" when it's hateful name-calling and mindless bashing. betsuni Mar 17 #39
We cannot continue to allow the gop to frame the arguments. They are no longer the party of freedom. lindysalsagal Mar 15 #2
They never were the party of freedom. choie Mar 16 #28
Anyone who has seen the data, the statistics, the graphs gab13by13 Mar 15 #7
As you know, I agree - we need a paper ballot hand recount in certain states... yellow dahlia Mar 16 #30
That dems could be easily convinced jrthin Mar 15 #8
lol bigtree Mar 15 #9
As a NYS resident, H2O Man Mar 15 #22
You are lucky to have that personal history and memory. From reading about him, jrthin Mar 16 #23
And worse, we're spending our weekend attacking Democratic leadership, MineralMan Mar 15 #12
If Senator Schumer isn't savvy enough to see the rat fucking William769 Mar 15 #13
Post removed Post removed Mar 15 #14
"An Ode to the Establishment, Chapter 2,567" BannonsLiver Mar 15 #16
K&R betsuni Mar 15 #18
"...dragging them for what republicans are in complete control over. " Lancero Mar 15 #19
magats were cheering for a shutdown Comrade Citizen Mar 15 #20
But Schumer did nothing to gain anything for the price of his vote displacedvermoter Mar 16 #26
Surely you can see the problem with the leadership, right? alarimer Mar 15 #21
If you think there were no Dems worried about Biden's age Cuthbert Allgood Mar 16 #24
People here still seem to think there was no mental decline for him. Ace Rothstein Mar 16 #32
Your post are a breath of fresh air, keep them coming. nt Hotler Mar 16 #25
Ah, I see, anybody concerned about the state of our leadership are ratfuckers, how convenient. indusurb Mar 16 #27
Two things can be true at once. yellow dahlia Mar 16 #29
You are back, after yesterdays drama. republianmushroom Mar 16 #31
Nah, this was posted yesterday as a precursor to their crash-out rant with the sites co-owner. Lancero Mar 16 #34
@bigtree B.See Mar 16 #33
I wish I could recommend this post a thousand times. valleyrogue Mar 16 #35
Same here Stuckinthebush Mar 16 #36
I'm not convinced, but if I were looking for a simple easy convincing DFW Mar 16 #37
Reed Hastings didn"t want to donate to Biden Blue Full Moon Mar 17 #40
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