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In reply to the discussion: Is Trump driving the US into a recession? - in charts -- The Guardian [View all]erronis
(22,956 posts)32. New relevant article from Digby
https://digbysblog.net/2025/03/18/a-trump-recession-coming/
It sure looks like its possible
It sure looks like its possible
Business is pulling back on capital expenditures because Donald Trump has created the most unstable economy (unstable world!) that anyone can remember with his capricious, decision making and Elon Musks chainsaw. Nobody can predict anything but chaos going forward and business is betting that taking any risk right now isnt worth it. I dont blame them.
Economist Mark Zandi told NY Magazines Benjamin Hart that he has raised his expectation of a recession this year from 5% to 35% based upon Trumps actions on tariffs, DOGE and all the chaos:
I will be shocked if he pulls back the tariffs, although anything is possible. He believes in them like a religion and thinks they will magically force all manufacturing to immediately move to America and basically end trade altogether. Its stupid and simplistic but thats what he thinks. With the way his dementia is progressing into even more grandiose delusions, I dont think reality is going to have much influence on him.
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Economist Mark Zandi told NY Magazines Benjamin Hart that he has raised his expectation of a recession this year from 5% to 35% based upon Trumps actions on tariffs, DOGE and all the chaos:
Despite all of this uncertainty, the recent data on inflation and unemployment is pretty solid. I was reading Justin Wolferss arguments on why recession fears may be overblown. He wrote that the hard numbers tell us that the economy is in very good shape. Do you agree? And do you expect that to last in the next couple of months? Because obviously were just beginning to understand the effects of all these haphazard policies.
The economy came into the year performing exceptionally and growing strongly. GDP last year was almost 3 percent, and growth was almost 3 percent. Thats a really good year. We created 2 million jobs. Thats a lot of jobs. Unemployment was 4 percent across every demographic. Thats very low. And its been there now for three years, which is just extraordinary. We have our problems, but the top-line performance of the economy arguably couldnt be better coming into the year, so it would take a lot to diminish and derail it. But thats whats happening.
I cant think of another example like this of somebody coming in and just single-handedly creating such a bad economic situation.
Yeah, recession by design. It will take a lot to push the economy off the rails, but if the president follows through on all the tariffs hes discussed and articulated, most importantly the reciprocal tariffs, then holds them there not on again, off again, but says, Okay, here are the tariffs and were sticking to them other countries will retaliate. They already are. Once they realize that these tariffs are going to be around for a while, theyre going to respond in kind. Forget about all the other economic policies and everything else going on, that would be enough to push the economy into recession later this year.
I will be shocked if he pulls back the tariffs, although anything is possible. He believes in them like a religion and thinks they will magically force all manufacturing to immediately move to America and basically end trade altogether. Its stupid and simplistic but thats what he thinks. With the way his dementia is progressing into even more grandiose delusions, I dont think reality is going to have much influence on him.
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Is Trump driving the US into a recession? - in charts -- The Guardian [View all]
erronis
Mar 2025
OP
My sister in law (if that's what one's wife's brother's wife is) last Christmas:
GoYouPackersGo
Mar 2025
#42
Be suspicious of "vacations" to the Cayman Islands and Dominican Republic...
IthinkThereforeIAM
Mar 2025
#20
According to Paul Krugman, that is exactly what Trump is doing, along with a lot of other de-stabilizing stuff like
Martin68
Mar 2025
#14
Crash our economy, blame the democrats and Biden and then cancel our constitution and democracy
kimbutgar
Mar 2025
#16
He's already tried blaming Biden once recently, but I think that this excuse fell flat on the floor as soon as it left
SWBTATTReg
Mar 2025
#19
I can't write nor say his name without being angry and nauseous so I refer to him as the orange Hitler 2.0
kimbutgar
Mar 2025
#21
Yes, I'm not going to give this POS a damn thing, restrain my purchases to the essentials, and otherwise, not give
SWBTATTReg
Mar 2025
#22
He's not just causing a mere recession, he's actively de-stabilizing this country.
Initech
Mar 2025
#29
Just wait until April 2nd - the day Trump says the tariffs are going to start.
kerry-is-my-prez
Mar 2025
#23
I expect that a lot of his "friends"/insiders will be buying long before he announces
erronis
Mar 2025
#24
He already HAS done tariff taxes. Canada, China, and Mexico products already tariffed now. US companies paying. . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Mar 2025
#36
Duh. Someone here said I don't know which of Donnie and musk is Thelma and which is Louise,
unblock
Mar 2025
#26
Yes. The goal is to make all the US into "rentiers". His fat-cat "friends" can profit off the subscription model.
erronis
Mar 2025
#31
Call me crazy but it is 100% on purpose. Ordered by his owner and master Putin.
OverBurn
Mar 2025
#33