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erronis

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32. New relevant article from Digby
Tue Mar 18, 2025, 04:17 PM
Mar 2025
https://digbysblog.net/2025/03/18/a-trump-recession-coming/

It sure looks like it’s possible

Business is pulling back on capital expenditures because Donald Trump has created the most unstable economy (unstable world!) that anyone can remember with his capricious, decision making and Elon Musk’s chainsaw. Nobody can predict anything but chaos going forward and business is betting that taking any risk right now isn’t worth it. I don’t blame them.

Economist Mark Zandi told NY Magazine’s Benjamin Hart that he has raised his expectation of a recession this year from 5% to 35% based upon Trump’s actions on tariffs, DOGE and all the chaos:

Despite all of this uncertainty, the recent data on inflation and unemployment is pretty solid. I was reading Justin Wolfers’s arguments on why recession fears may be overblown. He wrote that “the hard numbers tell us that the economy is in very good shape.” Do you agree? And do you expect that to last in the next couple of months? Because obviously we’re just beginning to understand the effects of all these haphazard policies.
The economy came into the year performing exceptionally and growing strongly. GDP last year was almost 3 percent, and growth was almost 3 percent. That’s a really good year. We created 2 million jobs. That’s a lot of jobs. Unemployment was 4 percent across every demographic. That’s very low. And it’s been there now for three years, which is just extraordinary. We have our problems, but the top-line performance of the economy arguably couldn’t be better coming into the year, so it would take a lot to diminish and derail it. But that’s what’s happening.

I can’t think of another example like this of somebody coming in and just single-handedly creating such a bad economic situation.

Yeah, recession by design. It will take a lot to push the economy off the rails, but if the president follows through on all the tariffs he’s discussed and articulated, most importantly the reciprocal tariffs, then holds them there — not on again, off again, but says, “Okay, here are the tariffs and we’re sticking to them” — other countries will retaliate. They already are. Once they realize that these tariffs are going to be around for a while, they’re going to respond in kind. Forget about all the other economic policies and everything else going on, that would be enough to push the economy into recession later this year.

I will be shocked if he pulls back the tariffs, although anything is possible. He believes in them like a religion and thinks they will magically force all manufacturing to immediately move to America and basically end trade altogether. It’s stupid and simplistic but that’s what he thinks. With the way his dementia is progressing into even more grandiose delusions, I don’t think reality is going to have much influence on him.

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+1. Guardian is great. Lots of good charts. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #1
Research universities are the economic engines of our economy. yardwork Mar 2025 #2
Better Broke than Woke North Coast Lawyer Mar 2025 #34
It's worse than that. yardwork Mar 2025 #35
Yep, and I'm a professor of chemistry. GoYouPackersGo Mar 2025 #39
I would never have believed this was possible in the U.S. yardwork Mar 2025 #41
My sister in law (if that's what one's wife's brother's wife is) last Christmas: GoYouPackersGo Mar 2025 #42
We will be damn lucky if it's only a recession. MLWR Mar 2025 #3
Agree. And the money looted from the US will be stored outside the US. erronis Mar 2025 #5
Be suspicious of "vacations" to the Cayman Islands and Dominican Republic... IthinkThereforeIAM Mar 2025 #20
I've been 'betting' on depression for months, elleng Mar 2025 #13
Drive? ...I think we can walk from here. JohnnyRingo Mar 2025 #4
The obvious answer is FUCKING YES. sakabatou Mar 2025 #6
No, MAGA media is calling it a "necessary correction". Initech Mar 2025 #7
Companies and consumers don't like volatility IronLionZion Mar 2025 #8
Buffets been adding to his cash reserves. NowsTheTime Mar 2025 #9
Is the Pope Catholic? nt GoYouPackersGo Mar 2025 #10
Was the Pope Polish??? elleng Mar 2025 #12
NO DOUBT he is. elleng Mar 2025 #11
According to Paul Krugman, that is exactly what Trump is doing, along with a lot of other de-stabilizing stuff like Martin68 Mar 2025 #14
No. He's leading it into a F-ing depression! Sogo Mar 2025 #15
Agree! TY Cha Mar 2025 #27
Crash our economy, blame the democrats and Biden and then cancel our constitution and democracy kimbutgar Mar 2025 #16
He's already tried blaming Biden once recently, but I think that this excuse fell flat on the floor as soon as it left SWBTATTReg Mar 2025 #19
I can't write nor say his name without being angry and nauseous so I refer to him as the orange Hitler 2.0 kimbutgar Mar 2025 #21
Yes, I'm not going to give this POS a damn thing, restrain my purchases to the essentials, and otherwise, not give SWBTATTReg Mar 2025 #22
He's not just causing a mere recession, he's actively de-stabilizing this country. Initech Mar 2025 #29
He's driving the US into third world status. NNadir Mar 2025 #17
It's all mumbo jumbo until people stop spending Johnny2X2X Mar 2025 #18
Just wait until April 2nd - the day Trump says the tariffs are going to start. kerry-is-my-prez Mar 2025 #23
I expect that a lot of his "friends"/insiders will be buying long before he announces erronis Mar 2025 #24
He already HAS done tariff taxes. Canada, China, and Mexico products already tariffed now. US companies paying. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #36
YES, Per the Puppeteer's Orders. Straight from Putin. Cha Mar 2025 #25
Duh. Someone here said I don't know which of Donnie and musk is Thelma and which is Louise, unblock Mar 2025 #26
yes Evolve Dammit Mar 2025 #28
Obviously, but it's worse than you think jmowreader Mar 2025 #30
Yes. The goal is to make all the US into "rentiers". His fat-cat "friends" can profit off the subscription model. erronis Mar 2025 #31
I don't see how a different President will help anymore. HappyLarge Mar 2025 #40
New relevant article from Digby erronis Mar 2025 #32
Call me crazy but it is 100% on purpose. Ordered by his owner and master Putin. OverBurn Mar 2025 #33
Yes. CaptainTruth Mar 2025 #37
Just like Victor Orban did and Putin did................ turbinetree Mar 2025 #38
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