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Self Esteem

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35. Democrats historically were the party of low-propensity voters.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 07:46 PM
Apr 1

That's a big reason Clinton and Obama overperformed their party in multiple elections (as those voters typically only vote every four years). However, those voters have shifted significantly since 2016. High turnout generally means more of these low-propensity voters are getting out to the polls and they have not been favorable to Democrats in the most recent elections.

They hurt Hillary in 2016, was a big reason Trump overperformed polls in 2020 and why he won in 2024.

These voters are typically less engaged than high-propensity voters - they're generally lower income and less educated.

A big reason Democrats have done so well in these elections is because higher educated, more affluent voters tend to vote more consistently than less educated and lower income voters.

It wasn't that long ago Republicans dominated white, college educated voters. But Harris actually won white educated voters 53-46.

In 2020, Trump was the first Republican in over 60 years to lose college educated white voters, having barely won it in 2016 (here's an article about how he was possibly the first Republican in 60 years to lose that vote - which he didn't but did in 2020 and then again in 2024).

These voters vote in these types of elections. It's a big reason Democrats did so well in special elections throughout 2023 and 2024 - and that was not a precursor to anything in terms of general election success because Trump has taken a lot of those low-propensity voters who used to support the Democrats.

Democrats went from winning those who made less than $50,000 by +22 points in 2012 with Obama (vs Romney), to losing this demographic by 2 to Trump in 2024.

Trump's success has proven a realignment of sorts. Democrats went from the party of the lower working class with a significant amount of high school-only educated voters - to the party of higher incomes and more education across all demographics.

To further expand on this point: in 2012, Obama beat Romney 51-48 among voters who had only a high school education. In 2024, Trump beat Harris among this group 56-43. Those voters are less likely to vote in these off elections than affluent, more educated voters. That's why Democrats USED to do well with high turnout elections. But not anymore. Not in the Age of Trump.

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Hey Musk, the prophecy said, Money can't buy you love!" GreenWave Apr 1 #1
..it profiteth a man naught if he shall.. thomski64 Apr 1 #3
Sheer profundity! GreenWave Apr 1 #7
Right stick that million up his ass Tribetime Apr 1 #22
I hate the timing of this. No one in WI should take this as an excuse not to vote karynnj Apr 1 #2
Too often it's too many Democrats who get complacent & overconfident about elections. elocs Apr 1 #12
If we recover our democracy, maybe America will be better MadameButterfly Apr 1 #38
Yes bdamomma Apr 1 #43
The turnout problem can be adjusted gab13by13 Apr 1 #4
"Adjusted".. wimk, wink, nudge, nudge. Permanut Apr 1 #26
Thats my worry MadameButterfly Apr 1 #39
Conspiracy theories are mostly self-soothing mechanisms Maru Kitteh Apr 1 #44
I hope that these projections are correct LetMyPeopleVote Apr 1 #5
Not if starlink is connected to systems, jus sayin uponit7771 Apr 1 #6
But they weren't and aren't/nt Abnredleg Apr 1 #8
According to this they were the reason vote counting went so quickly in 2024 tintinvotes Apr 1 #30
It was used for registration Abnredleg Apr 1 #33
Cab you post a link from a credible source? tintinvotes Apr 1 #36
Here you go Abnredleg Apr 1 #37
I still don't like Starlink or Elon anywhere near our voting system MadameButterfly Apr 1 #40
I'm not disagreeing with you/nt Abnredleg Apr 1 #42
Exactly! Here comes the russian algorithm! BComplex Apr 1 #23
Republicans have had a turnout problem in a lot of offcycle elections. Self Esteem Apr 1 #9
There is much to think about in this post. I have noticed this trend but not Maru Kitteh Apr 1 #16
Yes, it will mean much. Because we won't have another "major" election for almost four years from now. W_HAMILTON Apr 1 #17
Mostly these special elections are great for morale... WarGamer Apr 1 #19
Not disagreeing but... Hieronymus Phact Apr 1 #24
Democrats historically were the party of low-propensity voters. Self Esteem Apr 1 #35
Romney got caught on tape saying this: MadameButterfly Apr 1 #41
Yes and it's made winning big turnout nationwide elections tough for Democrats. Self Esteem Apr 2 #45
i hope we don't have to wait that long MadameButterfly Apr 3 #46
Oy vey Prairie Gates Apr 1 #10
They may have underestimated how much people hate Eloon. milestogo Apr 1 #11
fingers crossed AltairIV Apr 1 #13
Don't jinx this. Emile Apr 1 #14
Encouraging! peggysue2 Apr 1 #15
Can't we just wait a few hours? WarGamer Apr 1 #18
It's kismet MaineNative Apr 1 #20
Oh no! Think of the poor little Musks! dchill Apr 1 #21
Be very cautiously optimistic. VERY cautiously DFW Apr 1 #25
Many power outages due to an ice storm. WiVoter Apr 1 #27
From this page to Gods ear JMCKUSICK Apr 1 #28
Musk will use his Starlink to tamper with the ballots Owens Apr 1 #29
My suspicion as well. n/t returnee Apr 1 #34
Good!! Demovictory9 Apr 1 #31
I am wary of reports about low GQP turnout etc. moniss Apr 1 #32
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