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Self Esteem

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35. Democrats historically were the party of low-propensity voters.
Tue Apr 1, 2025, 07:46 PM
Apr 2025

That's a big reason Clinton and Obama overperformed their party in multiple elections (as those voters typically only vote every four years). However, those voters have shifted significantly since 2016. High turnout generally means more of these low-propensity voters are getting out to the polls and they have not been favorable to Democrats in the most recent elections.

They hurt Hillary in 2016, was a big reason Trump overperformed polls in 2020 and why he won in 2024.

These voters are typically less engaged than high-propensity voters - they're generally lower income and less educated.

A big reason Democrats have done so well in these elections is because higher educated, more affluent voters tend to vote more consistently than less educated and lower income voters.

It wasn't that long ago Republicans dominated white, college educated voters. But Harris actually won white educated voters 53-46.

In 2020, Trump was the first Republican in over 60 years to lose college educated white voters, having barely won it in 2016 (here's an article about how he was possibly the first Republican in 60 years to lose that vote - which he didn't but did in 2020 and then again in 2024).

These voters vote in these types of elections. It's a big reason Democrats did so well in special elections throughout 2023 and 2024 - and that was not a precursor to anything in terms of general election success because Trump has taken a lot of those low-propensity voters who used to support the Democrats.

Democrats went from winning those who made less than $50,000 by +22 points in 2012 with Obama (vs Romney), to losing this demographic by 2 to Trump in 2024.

Trump's success has proven a realignment of sorts. Democrats went from the party of the lower working class with a significant amount of high school-only educated voters - to the party of higher incomes and more education across all demographics.

To further expand on this point: in 2012, Obama beat Romney 51-48 among voters who had only a high school education. In 2024, Trump beat Harris among this group 56-43. Those voters are less likely to vote in these off elections than affluent, more educated voters. That's why Democrats USED to do well with high turnout elections. But not anymore. Not in the Age of Trump.

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Hey Musk, the prophecy said, Money can't buy you love!" GreenWave Apr 2025 #1
..it profiteth a man naught if he shall.. thomski64 Apr 2025 #3
Sheer profundity! GreenWave Apr 2025 #7
Right stick that million up his ass Tribetime Apr 2025 #22
I hate the timing of this. No one in WI should take this as an excuse not to vote karynnj Apr 2025 #2
Too often it's too many Democrats who get complacent & overconfident about elections. elocs Apr 2025 #12
If we recover our democracy, maybe America will be better MadameButterfly Apr 2025 #38
Yes bdamomma Apr 2025 #43
The turnout problem can be adjusted gab13by13 Apr 2025 #4
"Adjusted".. wimk, wink, nudge, nudge. Permanut Apr 2025 #26
Thats my worry MadameButterfly Apr 2025 #39
Conspiracy theories are mostly self-soothing mechanisms Maru Kitteh Apr 2025 #44
I hope that these projections are correct LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #5
Not if starlink is connected to systems, jus sayin uponit7771 Apr 2025 #6
But they weren't and aren't/nt Abnredleg Apr 2025 #8
According to this they were the reason vote counting went so quickly in 2024 tintinvotes Apr 2025 #30
It was used for registration Abnredleg Apr 2025 #33
Cab you post a link from a credible source? tintinvotes Apr 2025 #36
Here you go Abnredleg Apr 2025 #37
I still don't like Starlink or Elon anywhere near our voting system MadameButterfly Apr 2025 #40
I'm not disagreeing with you/nt Abnredleg Apr 2025 #42
Exactly! Here comes the russian algorithm! BComplex Apr 2025 #23
Republicans have had a turnout problem in a lot of offcycle elections. Self Esteem Apr 2025 #9
There is much to think about in this post. I have noticed this trend but not Maru Kitteh Apr 2025 #16
Yes, it will mean much. Because we won't have another "major" election for almost four years from now. W_HAMILTON Apr 2025 #17
Mostly these special elections are great for morale... WarGamer Apr 2025 #19
Not disagreeing but... Hieronymus Phact Apr 2025 #24
Democrats historically were the party of low-propensity voters. Self Esteem Apr 2025 #35
Romney got caught on tape saying this: MadameButterfly Apr 2025 #41
Yes and it's made winning big turnout nationwide elections tough for Democrats. Self Esteem Apr 2025 #45
i hope we don't have to wait that long MadameButterfly Apr 2025 #46
Oy vey Prairie Gates Apr 2025 #10
They may have underestimated how much people hate Eloon. milestogo Apr 2025 #11
fingers crossed AltairIV Apr 2025 #13
Don't jinx this. Emile Apr 2025 #14
Encouraging! peggysue2 Apr 2025 #15
Can't we just wait a few hours? WarGamer Apr 2025 #18
It's kismet MaineNative Apr 2025 #20
Oh no! Think of the poor little Musks! dchill Apr 2025 #21
Be very cautiously optimistic. VERY cautiously DFW Apr 2025 #25
Many power outages due to an ice storm. WiVoter Apr 2025 #27
From this page to Gods ear JMCKUSICK Apr 2025 #28
Musk will use his Starlink to tamper with the ballots Owens Apr 2025 #29
My suspicion as well. n/t returnee Apr 2025 #34
Good!! Demovictory9 Apr 2025 #31
I am wary of reports about low GQP turnout etc. moniss Apr 2025 #32
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