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MichMan

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73. Your opinion might be different if it was your job being outsourced to China, Mexico, India or Vietnam.
Wed Apr 2, 2025, 11:23 PM
Apr 2025

As long as it is someone else's problem, people are pretty cavalier about it.

Living in Michigan for 60 plus years, and working in the auto industry, I have seen dozens and dozens of manufacturing plants shuttered and abandoned after production was moved to Mexico because wages were cheaper and environmental rules were lax. Decimated smaller towns all over the Midwest that never really recovered. Those factory jobs paid decent wages, and generation after generation worked at them and paid taxes that supported their local communities.

On one hand, we advocate for workers getting higher wages and support those who are striking for them, yet are OK when jobs are moved to low wage countries as long as it makes products cheaper. I just don't get it.

Fifteen years ago............

Whirlpool: Keep It Made in America

The Whirlpool Corp. plans to start closing its refrigerator plant in Evansville, Ind., on March 26. The refrigerators now manufactured at this plant will be produced in Mexico, eliminating 1,100 local jobs. Meanwhile, Whirlpool--the world's largest home appliance maker--enjoys healthy profits and has received a $19 million economic matching grant that should be creating jobs here in America.


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Are any of the big 3s cars actually entirely made in the USA? I would be surprised if Scrivener7 Apr 2025 #1
Can't tell MichMan Apr 2025 #4
There was a Stellantis dealer who said the average monthly payment on a new car will be $175.00 DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2025 #7
$175?? mwmisses4289 Apr 2025 #13
I meant an additional $175.00. Mea culpa. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2025 #20
Ah, that makes more sense. Thanks for clarifying. mwmisses4289 Apr 2025 #23
Nope, unless you have 775+ score, $5k down, and it's under $20k. haele Apr 2025 #14
You are missing a 1 The Madcap Apr 2025 #57
Mea culpa . I expained below. An additional $175.00 DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2025 #58
I know The Madcap Apr 2025 #60
The Correct Answer Is No ProfessorGAC Apr 2025 #41
No Polybius Apr 2025 #68
Cadillac sells one DetroitLegalBeagle Apr 2025 #2
Would you say Cadillac is a luxury car? DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2025 #6
Given that the average price of a new car is $48,641 I would say that model is not. MichMan Apr 2025 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2025 #9
Cadillac is a luxury brand. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2025 #17
Sure, but its still a midsized car DetroitLegalBeagle Apr 2025 #11
It's not the average price of a midsize car. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2025 #18
It's a luxury mid-size sedan EdmondDantes_ Apr 2025 #12
This is disingenuous DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2025 #19
How? ; a midsize car refers to the size, not the price. MichMan Apr 2025 #21
Because it's disingenuous to insist Cadillac isn't a luxury brand. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2025 #25
Did you just call the MX-5 a mid-sized sedan? flvegan Apr 2025 #28
Mea Culpa. I meant the Mazda 3, "Really..." DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2025 #29
Ah, makes sense. Good car the 3, though I prefer the hatchback. flvegan Apr 2025 #34
I was getting confused looking up the prices of several cars. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2025 #37
2025 is officially the last year. flvegan Apr 2025 #62
The CT4 is a compact, not a midsize car DetroitLegalBeagle Apr 2025 #83
Why, do you own one? MichMan Apr 2025 #35
It's a mid sized luxury car with an attendant price DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2025 #42
49k gets you the most base CT5, which is a pretty lackluster car for the money according to reviews Mountainguy Apr 2025 #77
Ironically, that has sold 4 times as many in China as in the USA muriel_volestrangler Apr 2025 #87
Used car prices will surge. roamer65 Apr 2025 #3
This Is Why We Drive A Mercedes Benz GLE 350 - Incredible Performance - Top Notch Safety - MayReasonRule Apr 2025 #5
If the prices of new parts goes way up, their LRG will only refund in store credits what you paid for them previously MichMan Apr 2025 #10
Time Will Tell... Unless They Change Their Policy... Price Changes Have Been Irrelevant. I Pay For Return Shipping. MayReasonRule Apr 2025 #24
It does make a difference when they changed the policy a year ago MichMan Apr 2025 #39
Right On... I Appreciate The Heads Up Y'all... It's Time For Me To Do Returns And Do Maintenance MayReasonRule Apr 2025 #51
People can't believe it when I tell them I pour the used oil back into the bottles and return it MichMan Apr 2025 #53
I Know Right! They Look At Me Like "What The Fuck You Talkin' 'Bout Willis?!!" MayReasonRule Apr 2025 #55
You mean midsize *sedans*, right? keep_left Apr 2025 #15
Truth or not? ILikePie92 Apr 2025 #16
AI says no. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2025 #27
So Does Motortrend ProfessorGAC Apr 2025 #43
AI says the parts are 65-70% US made DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2025 #44
I Saw That Too ProfessorGAC Apr 2025 #45
AI? ILikePie92 Apr 2025 #64
I bought my current car a few years ago dsc Apr 2025 #22
In any case the Malibu and Chrysler 300 have been discontinued. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2025 #26
It was closer but still noticeably more pricey and frankly not as good a car dsc Apr 2025 #30
Thats what I thought. At times it hard to buy American. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2025 #32
It is and that is a shame dsc Apr 2025 #36
Focus is a bit small and I believe it has been discontinued too. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2025 #40
yep dsc Apr 2025 #46
K-5s are nice. The dealer loaned me one when my Optima was in the shop. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2025 #47
It is a nice car dsc Apr 2025 #48
And the 10 year 100,000 mile drive train warranty is nice. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2025 #49
yep it is dsc Apr 2025 #52
Enjoy your car. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2025 #54
I am doing that thanks dsc Apr 2025 #56
My 2017 Subaru Legacy is awesome JanMichael Apr 2025 #31
We have a gmc 2002, 325,000 and going strong questionseverything Apr 2025 #33
I think it will go up to 200k pretty easy maybe more JanMichael Apr 2025 #38
Corporate average fuel economy Jose Garcia Apr 2025 #50
My new-to-me midsize Prius gets an average of slightly above 50 mpg. n/t Ms. Toad Apr 2025 #75
Priuses are built in Japan Jose Garcia Apr 2025 #80
Your point? Ms. Toad Apr 2025 #84
This might spell the end The Madcap Apr 2025 #59
I'm driving a 2017 Honda Fit I bought second hand in 2018. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2025 #61
Bonus perk for manuals shanti Apr 2025 #85
Hell, I don't even bother to lock it most of the time. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2025 #86
The most "American Made" mid-size sedan in the USA is the Toyota Camry. WarGamer Apr 2025 #63
Not necessarily. US and Canada content is combined together per NHTSA labeling standards MichMan Apr 2025 #65
Allow BYD in without tariffs, radius777 Apr 2025 #66
US auto workers are just going to have to work for Chinese wages if they want to compete, right? MichMan Apr 2025 #67
I'm fan of free trade, NAFTA was great IMO. radius777 Apr 2025 #69
Your opinion might be different if it was your job being outsourced to China, Mexico, India or Vietnam. MichMan Apr 2025 #73
They will be replaced by F*elon's robots sooner or later. Justice matters. Apr 2025 #71
Who are the big three these days? Polybius Apr 2025 #70
Ford, GM, and Stellantis DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2025 #72
Stellantis is no longer domestic MichMan Apr 2025 #74
I work for them Jack Bone Apr 2025 #76
I can see why given the Charger EV MichMan Apr 2025 #81
Ford disagrees ... marble falls Apr 2025 #78
If you consider cars made in China for sale in the Middle East as domestic, sure MichMan Apr 2025 #82
Wow NJCher Apr 2025 #79
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