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Wiz Imp

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43. That is unlikely to have any significant effect.

Sun Apr 13, 2025, 02:18 PM

Apr 13

Coal mining is expensive and not very efficient compared to other energy sources. This administration can't change that.

https://www.utilitydive.com/news/trump-coal-executive-order-doe-power-plants/744846/

Trump aims to boost coal, in part by ordering power plants to stay open
However, the executive orders will likely have little effect on coal-fired generation, according to analysts.

The moves by the Trump administration do little to improve the economics of coal compared to other generating resources, according to Rob Gramlich, CEO of Grid Strategies. “Natural gas fracking killed coal power in the US and neither this nor any previous administration is banning fracking,” Gramlich said on social media.

“I don’t think these orders change the facts that coal-fired power plants are old, expensive to run, and unlikely to operate very often or for many more years,” Gramlich said.

Also, there is no evidence that any company is considering building a new coal-fired power plant or that supply chains or manufacturing could support it, Gramlich said.

Nearly all U.S. coal-fired power plants are more expensive to run than new, local wind, solar and energy storage resources, according to a January 2023 report from Energy Innovation.

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Trump's order to expand U.S. timber production includes all of California's national forests [View all] Zorro Apr 13 OP

It's retaliation. Baitball Blogger Apr 13 #1

"They took all the trees and put 'em in a tree museum............ Ping Tung Apr 13 #12

They refused to rake the forest floors Diraven Apr 13 #52

I wonder how much of a kickback tsf gets. johnnyfins Apr 13 #2

He thinks if they're not raked to prevent forest fires, then they should just be cut down. Another problem solved surfered Apr 13 #3

Leave no sequoia behind. no_hypocrisy Apr 13 #4

That sucks 😔👎 Tickle Apr 13 #5

That is unlikely to have any significant effect. Wiz Imp Apr 13 #43

This makes me nauseous and pissed off beyond words Bayard Apr 13 #6

I am so sick of hearing "burdensome regulations". louis-t Apr 13 #7

What do you expect? This is the guy... keep_left Apr 13 #8

Holy hell...haha D_Master81 Apr 13 #13

He only spends time outdoors BonnieJW Apr 13 #27

Remember when conservatives thought Obama Dr. T Apr 13 #45

Mt. Lassen National Forest is in my sister's eyesight. ProudMNDemocrat Apr 13 #9

The definitions are strange. Igel Apr 13 #53

I suspect the fool thinks our national forests are filled with trees down in southern CA travelingthrulife Apr 13 #10

I do notice that people have no real idea about California Unwind Your Mind Apr 13 #11

I'm trying to plan a family vacation out there D_Master81 Apr 13 #14

Thank you for visiting! Unwind Your Mind Apr 13 #19

Do it! You will not regret it. CareyOn Apr 13 #50

They have no shame. mdbl Apr 13 #24

National Forests OrangeJoe Apr 13 #31

Retaliation Iamscrewed Apr 13 #15

I guess we'll just have to grow the trees back MadameButterfly Apr 13 #16

Right. The world's tallest trees can be replaced by pine mono-forests just like that Hekate Apr 13 #20

Man. What happened to these guys? MadameButterfly Apr 13 #54

Right. The sequoia's that trump/buddies are lusting for are more than 1,000 years old. erronis Apr 13 #21

it's truly sickening! LymphocyteLover Apr 13 #36

Perhaps it's time to not allow them to cut. Magoo48 Apr 13 #35

Very Saruman of them ybbor Apr 13 #17

MAGA forest management will leave us looking like Mordor LymphocyteLover Apr 13 #37

The goal of destroying what has taken thousands of years to grow and houses CareyOn Apr 13 #18

Yes Hekate Apr 13 #23

Few things more evil than this sort of destruction LymphocyteLover Apr 13 #38

When all the magats are gasping for oxygen mdbl Apr 13 #22

Can they sue to stop him? WTF is an emergency about cutting down trees?? 58Sunliner Apr 13 #25

President mudslides Johonny Apr 13 #26

OH MY GOD!!! bluboid Apr 13 #28

Something tells me there will be massive protests of people saying kimbutgar Apr 13 #29

Fuck that fucking FUCK. RandomNumbers Apr 13 #30

No problem. Someone will sue & the feds might eventually Dark n Stormy Knight Apr 13 #32

What a dick. Owning the Libs. FU Evolve Dammit Apr 13 #33

What emergency? pfitz59 Apr 13 #34

Emergency he created since we buy Tree Lady Apr 13 #56

There's a song called The Trees Dr. T Apr 13 #39

May the Traildogbob Apr 13 #40

We need superheros. Fear not. Magoo48 Apr 13 #41

CALL 911! ROBBERY IN PROGRESS! dchill Apr 13 #42

Secede Cali, now. Clouds Passing Apr 13 #44

Governor Newsum? Magoo48 Apr 13 #49

Trump... GiqueCee Apr 13 #46

Even California GQP will not allow this................ Lovie777 Apr 13 #47

I doubt he can do any such thing. valleyrogue Apr 13 #48

Look at the ecosystems on islands that got deforested. GreenWave Apr 13 #51

This makes me sick Tree Lady Apr 13 #55