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ShazzieB

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19. Whrther he's mentally ill depends on how you define mental illness.

Sun Apr 13, 2025, 04:52 PM

Apr 13

Many experts believe Trump is a malignant narcissist, which is a combination of two different personality disorders: narcissistic personality disorder (npd) and antisocial personality disorder (apd or aspd). Both of these disorders are problematic, and the combination of both is a dangerous one, because it tends to produce people that, well, act like Trump!

Where things get muddy is that some experts dedcribe personality disorders as a category of "mental illness," while other call them "mental health conditions" or "mental disorders." The latter sound like distinctions without a real difference to me, but I'm not a trained psychologist or therapist so take that as you will!

One thing everyone seems to agree on is that a personality disorder is a deviation from optimal human functioning, and another is that personality disorders are extremely hard, if not impossible to treat, because they involve behaviors and patterns of thought that are deeply embedded (you might say baked in) aspects of someone's personality. Also, people with npd or aspd don't usually seek help, because their behavior is troublesome primarily to those around them. These people don't think there's is anything wrong with them; any time their behavior causes a problem, they blame it on someone (or something) else.

Below are a couple of links and avideo that I hope may be informative. You can find loads more by googling terms like "personality disorders" or "narcissism." Combine those terms with "Trump" and you get hits relating these terms to him. I found the last two items below by googling "Trump malignant narcissist."

Personality Disorders Are Not Always Seen as Mental Disorders
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/5-types-people-who-can-ruin-your-life/202206/personality-disorders-are-not-always-seen-mental

Trump, a malignant narcissist?
https://bitterrootstar.com/2025/03/trump-a-malignant-narcissist/

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Trump did not want to be elected to be the President. [View all] kentuck Apr 13 OP

Yes. He's filled the Oval Office with gilt golf trophies. pandr32 Apr 13 #1

gilt golf trophies worthy of... JohnQFunk Apr 13 #9

All the responsibility stuff BOSSHOG Apr 13 #2

"The American people will suffer greatly from this great political fiasco." J_William_Ryan Apr 13 #3

On Democracy The Wizard Apr 13 #4

many of us know NJCher Apr 13 #5

someone posted an excerpt here peacebuzzard Apr 13 #13

We should alert DENVERPOPS Apr 13 #29

We will suffer precisely as long as we put up with it. No cavalry is coming to save us. We do it or we do not. Magoo48 Apr 13 #14

THIS, by Crackie!!! calimary Apr 14 #34

Pain is the great motivator. Perhaps we've suffered more intensely and universally, we'll move off our current positions Magoo48 Apr 14 #43

My husband & I have been posting pix from the protest marches we've been to on FB. Dark n Stormy Knight Apr 14 #45

His immediate reason was avoiding prosecution and jail mdbl Apr 13 #6

Yes, I believe that was his primary reason PatSeg Apr 13 #10

Grifting is the only way he knows to make money mdbl Apr 13 #27

I agree PatSeg Apr 14 #44

The whole cabinet is cosplaying. They're like a bunch of teen influencers posting selfies on Instagram. Gaugamela Apr 13 #7

I was just going to reply something like this. slightlv Apr 13 #31

It is not cosplaying whopis01 Apr 14 #40

He's definitely very mentally ill, no doubt about it LymphocyteLover Apr 13 #8

that it! in a nutshell. peacebuzzard Apr 13 #11

Orange Pervert Sugar Daddy thought that running Dr. T Apr 13 #12

I noticed this term, he never has ANYTHING on the Resolute desk, except when he signs stuff. "I don't wanna work..." Evolve Dammit Apr 13 #15

and the amount of money we're paying for all his slightlv Apr 13 #32

The WH is guilt-infested AND gilt-festooned LSparkle Apr 13 #16

He must be the envy of his trailer park RainCaster Apr 13 #17

That was pretty obvious from that first trip down the golden escalator... Wounded Bear Apr 13 #18

Whrther he's mentally ill depends on how you define mental illness. ShazzieB Apr 13 #19

Trump is EVIL! Joinfortmill Apr 14 #42

He certainly does many evil things. ShazzieB Apr 14 #55

All his life ... usonian Apr 13 #20

Sure will. That trust was severely damaged when he was re-elected Ruby the Liberal Apr 13 #21

He did it to Rebl2 Apr 13 #22

Unfortunately, I'm feeling the same sentiment drmeow Apr 13 #23

I can't remember which one, but one of the early books on the Trump presidency said he didn't want the job in 2016. ificandream Apr 13 #24

Conservatives hold all three branches of our government. SleeplessinSoCal Apr 13 #25

You hit a real sore spot with me... slightlv Apr 13 #33

I was too tired and sad yesterday. SleeplessinSoCal Apr 14 #57

The word conservative needs to be excised from the Republican Party. They cconserve nothing: they are arsonists. mahina Apr 14 #35

Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes !!! Seinan Sensei Apr 14 #39

Mahalo mahina Apr 14 #46

Probably insane? Hes been diagnosed based upon everything hes said and Karadeniz Apr 13 #26

Well said. NT bee_peaceful Apr 13 #28

at the time, barbtries Apr 13 #30

And to stay out of prison. LS_Editor Apr 14 #36

Yes he did or he would not have run Meowmee Apr 14 #37

He is a con artist on the biggest con job of his life. Emile Apr 14 #38

Totally agree. We're in a mess and Congress is useless. It's up to us to RESIST and VOTE as long as we can. Joinfortmill Apr 14 #41

Simple: he ran to feed his ego, escape prosecution. He likely has now been programmed to believe he is doing God's work andym Apr 14 #47

Post removed Post removed Apr 14 #48

Your treasonous felon is destroying the small businesses, idiot! Justice matters. Apr 14 #50

Well Hello. You sound nice!! Bye! GP6971 Apr 14 #51

That was quick! mikeysnot Apr 14 #53

They usually are when they're so obvious!! GP6971 Apr 14 #54

Comrad Krasnov is destroying the U.S. from the inside. Justice matters. Apr 14 #49

And Very High on His List Was (IS) Accumulating as Much Moolah As Possible The Roux Comes First Apr 14 #52

Recommended. H2O Man Apr 14 #56