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BannonsLiver

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62. Every single candidate is flawed in some way.

Reply to Hellbound Hellhound (Reply #59)

Fri Jun 13, 2025, 11:14 AM

Jun 13

All of them. He’s no different. I will say that the responses in this thread tell me that his image here has been largely rehabilitated here in recent days. Didn’t take much for that to happen either, which really punches a hole in the lazy “he’s got no chance” takes I see periodically.

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I watched the Governor Newsom speech and realized I was looking at the next president of the United States [View all] Doodley Jun 13 OP

I wouldn't go that far--- but--- Jack Valentino Jun 13 #1

This really pisses me off! CountAllVotes Jun 13 #16

I am disappointed to hear that. I hope these cuts don't get through. Doodley Jun 13 #19

I pay property taxes and property insurance CountAllVotes Jun 13 #72

I'd rate that as extremely unlikely (for at least a couple of different reasons) - - -(nt)- stopdiggin Jun 13 #2

At least for now, he is being an effective party leader Jack Valentino Jun 13 #5

I wouldn't argue with the first part stopdiggin Jun 13 #7

Well, some other Democrats have been trying--- Jack Valentino Jun 13 #8

Sure, if he wins the primaries In It to Win It Jun 13 #3

I'd be okay with that. hamsterjill Jun 13 #4

He's got that it factor that Obama had and Clinton had. Tribetime Jun 13 #6

I think he has it 'this week'.... Jack Valentino Jun 13 #9

He puts his foot in his mouth regularly madville Jun 13 #39

Stop throwing out good people for infractions. travelingthrulife Jun 13 #45

This is PRE primary talk. NH Ethylene Jun 13 #66

That's it. Charisma, but also gravitas, someone to be dealt with. brush Jun 13 #58

Oh god please no SSJVegeta Jun 13 #10

I would gladly vote for him. travelingthrulife Jun 13 #46

Doing the same thing expecting different results is the definition of insanity SSJVegeta Jun 13 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Jun 13 #53

How will he do in PA? In OH and FL... how about GA? NC? MI? WarGamer Jun 13 #11

Courage plays well everywhere, not just in CA. BannonsLiver Jun 13 #74

We could do a lot worse than Gavin Newsome. There comradebillyboy Jun 13 #12

It is NEWSOM CountAllVotes Jun 13 #17

Bravo! A leader who can speak full sentences... ;) Justice matters. Jun 13 #13

Trump's grievances with California, may help Newsom to be President andym Jun 13 #14

We will have some good candidates by 2027! Newsom being one of them. Pisces Jun 13 #15

Hold that thought. I do too, but.... Hekate Jun 13 #18

I'm with you there. We need a range of candidates. Doodley Jun 13 #20

Yes and let the best candidate win in a fair and open primary... InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 13 #29

Excellent and astute points, I only wish others had your logical reasoning 👍 arthritisR_US Jun 13 #23

Well, thank you kindly Hekate Jun 13 #25

Yep. On Target. Thank You!!! BurnDoubt Jun 13 #33

Thank you for saying this. travelingthrulife Jun 13 #47

That, by the way, is an excellent speech. We are in good hands here, as long as Newsom can hold off Lawless Don. Hekate Jun 13 #21

He wouldn't win. Period. tazcat Jun 13 #22

Nah. Democrats have a tendency to get enamored with the next shiny object. Ms. Toad Jun 13 #24

Just like the pro-Palestinian crowd said about Kamala. How did that self-righteousness work out? travelingthrulife Jun 13 #49

No clue what you're talking about. Ms. Toad Jun 13 #75

I understand people have feelings on Newsom, but... forgotmylogin Jun 13 #26

I love your take. Pre-losing. chowder66 Jun 13 #27

Not pre-losing. Shipwack Jun 13 #28

That's what they said but I found it amusing the way they put it. chowder66 Jun 13 #40

Ah... ok. Sorry, I shouldn't post pre-coffee. :) nt Shipwack Jun 13 #42

Me either. lol chowder66 Jun 13 #55

Ha! I should have written me neither!! Sips coffee. chowder66 Jun 13 #56

Newsom's news conference was solid. democrank Jun 13 #30

It's JUDGE not JUSTICE wanderer54 Jun 13 #31

I'll vote for him if he's the nominee. He's my Governor and I think he's doing a very good job... BurnDoubt Jun 13 #32

I have new respect for Newsom G2theD Jun 13 #34

As I watch him, I see President Newsom. But, will the rest of the country? Jerry Brown might've made a good President, NBachers Jun 13 #35

I like Governor Tim Walz. Emile Jun 13 #36

I KNOW Tim Walz! ProudMNDemocrat Jun 13 #41

"He's not done with politics at all?" BannonsLiver Jun 13 #51

Another Minnesotan here--I think he has as much chance as the others indigovalley Jun 13 #70

Meh, he'll be in the B-C tier of candidates if he runs. BannonsLiver Jun 13 #73

Suits me. Paladin Jun 13 #37

He seems to be the first to call out the liar for what he is in a public setting. Vinca Jun 13 #38

I love Newsom but I can't help but feel that his anti-Trans-Sports view will cause him trouble. Hellbound Hellhound Jun 13 #43

Don't 70 percent of Dems agree with him on the issue? BannonsLiver Jun 13 #52

If he doesn't win the "DU primary" then he's going to struggle IRL. Hellbound Hellhound Jun 13 #54

I guess we'll find out soon enough. BannonsLiver Jun 13 #57

Yup! I think he's got what it takes and I'd vote for him, but there's definitely trouble. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Jun 13 #59

Every single candidate is flawed in some way. BannonsLiver Jun 13 #62

I agree, but DU is ... it's own thing. Hellbound Hellhound Jun 13 #65

FYI transsexuals is an outdated term. Oneironaut Jun 13 #60

Apologies for the mischaracterization, and I will edit appropriately. Hellbound Hellhound Jun 13 #63

Respectfully, I don't think that's representative of all LGBTQ+ groups. Oneironaut Jun 13 #67

If I had any available information, I'd DM you. Hellbound Hellhound Jun 13 #68

LGBT vote for president Celerity Jun 13 #83

A really good speech doesn't mean one is the next president. Autumn Jun 13 #44

and I'm sure all our favorite who's not gonna be POTUS anytime soon......Pete B. a kennedy Jun 13 #50

We may not live that long stillcool Jun 13 #61

I totally agree! ElementaryPenguin Jun 13 #64

He raised his chances quite a bit with his handling of the immigration problem in California. patphil Jun 13 #69

AOC ... Xoan Jun 13 #71

"I was looking at the next president of the United States" J_William_Ryan Jun 13 #76

Newsom President? Not gonna happen awesomerwb1 Jun 13 #77

Maybe, or maybe one of the other Governors. This is getting to be a states' rights battle, Ocelot II Jun 13 #78

I Don't See It Happening ... PBC_Democrat Jun 13 #79

I like Newsom better than other choices flamingdem Jun 13 #80

I don't think we should rush to anoint anyone senseandsensibility Jun 13 #81

We'd be looking at the current President had there been a primary last year. BlueTsunami2018 Jun 13 #82

Soon to join that pantheon of Californian Democratic presidents? LudwigPastorius Jun 13 #84

I think Andy Beshear is our best bet G2theD Jun 24 #85