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tulipsandroses

(8,127 posts)
31. Nope. trump supporters are either stupid, immoral, bigots, or some combination thereof
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 10:04 AM
Jul 2025

In my book, to be forgiven, you should work to repair the damage you caused. Remorse is not enough.
A victim of abuse should not be expected to forgive the abuser.

MAGA/trumpism whatever you want to call it, is here to stay. We need to recognize that. This is not about trump. Even if they were to turn on trump, it is only a matter of time before another trump like figure comes along and they support whatever evil that person wants to do.
trump is the symptom. There is a sickness that has always been in the American blood stream.The racism, bigotry, misogyny, meanness, extreme selfishness - I want my cheap eggs - (for the ones that claim they voted because of price of eggs) even if it means that people have to suffer for cheap eggs. See how many of them don't mind if other people lose their healthcare, as long as they are not affected.

Forget the convictions. - Many Americans do not care about that. They don't mind having a criminal president.
What I cannot understand, is that one million people died from Covid 19. He botched the response. Untold deaths due to his disregard for life.
He could have taken a different stance - He could have leveled with the American people, took action to save lives, encouraged the vaccines - and assured people that closures were necessary but the Government would do everything in its power to help us get back on track, once we got control of the virus. IMO, he would have won easily had he taken that stance. Instead he chose to weaponize it into us vs them. Now even more people will die now that we have a man in charge of our health who does not believe in vaccines and medications for mental health.

I was in NY during 9/11 - I remember the days and weeks after that, walking around the city, people were traumatized, you could see it on their faces. The fear was very apparent. You didn't know if we were still in danger. Were we next?? Is there another plane about to hit us??
I had that same feeling during the height of Covid lockdown, when I did venture out, I often saw that same look on people's faces. The fear of not knowing if we were safe.
People that witnessed that fear, just said, eh, eggs, I'll trade cheap eggs to put the person responsible for inflicting so much trauma on the nation back in office. Then came Jan 6, more trauma. They saw all that and said, yeah, give me more of that.
No, I cannot forgive people that inflict this kind of trauma.
They should be shamed. They depend on Dems always being the nice guys to continue their evil ways. Fuck em!

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No BeerBarrelPolka Jul 2025 #1
Same here Grim Chieftain Jul 2025 #72
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 2025 #2
There are some people who... LuckyCharms Jul 2025 #3
No Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #4
FUCK NO!!! atreides1 Jul 2025 #5
In my mailbox this morning.... homegirl Jul 2025 #93
I'm having a very difficult time doing so... SKKY Jul 2025 #6
No cannot be forgiven but their minds are ignorant and distorted bucolic_frolic Jul 2025 #7
No. Glorfindel Jul 2025 #8
They knew what they voted for. C_U_L8R Jul 2025 #9
None of us deserve grace or forgiveness. summer_in_TX Jul 2025 #138
No sinkingfeeling Jul 2025 #10
I think the act of forgiveness is intended to give the offender a way to excuse their behavior so they can in2herbs Jul 2025 #11
No. Fuck them. Vinca Jul 2025 #12
I always hope for redemption Just_Vote_Dem Jul 2025 #13
Nope. Bettie Jul 2025 #14
The ones that still support him? S/V Loner Jul 2025 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2025 #16
For voting for Trump. That's what the OP asks. n/t LuckyCharms Jul 2025 #22
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2025 #23
Get what? LuckyCharms Jul 2025 #24
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2025 #26
I sometimes have trouble tying my shoes, so I understand completely. LuckyCharms Jul 2025 #27
I'm sure that the person who you replied to who joined DU... literally today... is commenting in good faith... themaguffin Jul 2025 #120
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Jul 2025 #40
Traitor is a GD Treasonous, Psychopathic Lying Cha Jul 2025 #123
For being an Asshole. kentuck Jul 2025 #30
For a.... sheshe2 Jul 2025 #34
Oh yeah Lulu KC Jul 2025 #66
Hey, Lulu. sheshe2 Jul 2025 #69
What flavour pizza do you like? niyad Jul 2025 #132
No. GoCubsGo Jul 2025 #17
Seeing that... purr-rat beauty Jul 2025 #18
Hell no! bamagal62 Jul 2025 #19
Why in the world would you forgive them? NoRethugFriends Jul 2025 #20
I might be able to forgive a couple of dull-witted, low-information acquaintances Vogon_Glory Jul 2025 #21
I forgave the guy who stole from me, but Torchlight Jul 2025 #25
they were lied to The Blue Flower Jul 2025 #28
If they did it the first time in 2016, yes. DinahMoeHum Jul 2025 #29
Nope. trump supporters are either stupid, immoral, bigots, or some combination thereof tulipsandroses Jul 2025 #31
Nope. nt Autumn Jul 2025 #32
They don't want forgiveness They're enjoying this Bobstandard Jul 2025 #33
Exactly. They're not just bullies, they're sadists. They. Enjoy. This. Karasu Jul 2025 #97
NO! sheshe2 Jul 2025 #35
No peggysue2 Jul 2025 #36
No. But it doesn't matter, because most aren't seeking forgiveness, and won't ever. RockRaven Jul 2025 #37
Never. CanonRay Jul 2025 #38
Nope Dave says Jul 2025 #39
No, why should I? gordianot Jul 2025 #41
Forgiveness is something you do for yourself. alittlelark Jul 2025 #42
Never. 2MuchNoise Jul 2025 #43
Can forgive a few vapor2 Jul 2025 #44
I only forgive ppl who ask to be forgiven,,,, KarenS Jul 2025 #45
I believe some people who voted for Trump are good people. Oneironaut Jul 2025 #46
Most of the ignorance is a choice. hay rick Jul 2025 #99
I'm a Big F No Emile Jul 2025 #47
It's not my place to offer forgiveness PJMcK Jul 2025 #48
Not if they voted for him in 2024 FelineOverlord Jul 2025 #49
No! dlilafae Jul 2025 #50
No OLDMDDEM Jul 2025 #51
Nein non nyet ... hell NO! LSparkle Jul 2025 #52
Nope. LuvLoogie Jul 2025 #53
Don't stress yourself about it.... Sogo Jul 2025 #54
They don't particularly care for the concept, either. "Empathy is evil" and all that shit.. Karasu Jul 2025 #94
No. My nephews, 30 and 27, voted for him Danmel Jul 2025 #55
nope Kali999 Jul 2025 #56
NO. I haven't spoken to them and I will not unless I ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO for some reason. CousinIT Jul 2025 #57
NO. Never claudette Jul 2025 #58
No, fuck no ZDU Jul 2025 #59
Hell no, they voted to kill democracy and the damn well knew it JCMach1 Jul 2025 #60
The first time. Yes. After that no way. yourout Jul 2025 #61
For those who voted for him twice? Absolutely not. sakabatou Jul 2025 #62
No. They brought a concentration camp to American soil. Fuck them. Initech Jul 2025 #63
No. haele Jul 2025 #64
Never! IrishAfricanAmerican Jul 2025 #65
NEVER NameAlreadyTaken Jul 2025 #67
No however... SuzyandPuffpuff Jul 2025 #68
ONLY if they can articulate their regret. NoSheep Jul 2025 #70
Only if they confess their sin and ask for it. surfered Jul 2025 #71
I think forgiveness is something we do for ourselves. Heidi Jul 2025 #73
For me, forgiveness requires redemption Martin Eden Jul 2025 #74
No, Mr.Bee Jul 2025 #75
Is this a purity test? Is that what we're doing here? Maru Kitteh Jul 2025 #76
NO ! Iamscrewed Jul 2025 #77
Hell no LW1977 Jul 2025 #78
Never! OrlandoDem2 Jul 2025 #79
It matters not in the least orangecrush Jul 2025 #80
Fuck no. Nor can I forgive anyone who STILL identifies as a Republican after the last 10 years, especially after 1/6/21. Karasu Jul 2025 #81
Maybe only the ones I know are too ignorant of the real world. Callie1979 Jul 2025 #82
Everyone that voted for this did it for their own unforgivable reason: Ol Janx Spirit Jul 2025 #83
HARD NO... only understand the millionaires -- JT45242 Jul 2025 #84
No. These fuckers weren't stupid or uninformed. They voted for what they wanted and they Texin Jul 2025 #85
Hell no! Xoan Jul 2025 #86
No. They voted for Trump because they hate people like me. erodriguez Jul 2025 #87
Only if they admit SocialDemocrat61 Jul 2025 #88
A lot of them are good people, but seriously deluded. Jeebo Jul 2025 #89
I can forgive some. Those who voted for him because they were stupid. That's how they were born and Fil1957 Jul 2025 #90
No absolutely not I have lost a lot during the first 6 months of Trump's Jspur Jul 2025 #91
Never-ever. Not a fucking chance. (nt) Paladin Jul 2025 #92
Fuck 'em. I have no use for trumphumpers. I hope they enjoy lying in the bed they made for us all. camartinwv Jul 2025 #95
Nope electricmonk Jul 2025 #96
If there is no genuine remorse then I won't forgive them. BigDemVoter Jul 2025 #98
No way DownriverDem Jul 2025 #100
No. Absolutely not. hamsterjill Jul 2025 #101
This cult does not listen to facts bmichaelh Jul 2025 #102
No underpants Jul 2025 #103
No, not ever. Not a one of them. Nope, nope, nope. Meadowoak Jul 2025 #104
MAYBE yes to people who were duped by him the first time, and learned from it. calimary Jul 2025 #105
If it eats away at you, try to let it go. You can't have their hate consume your soul. Don't let them win another CTyankee Jul 2025 #106
When they ask for redemption edhopper Jul 2025 #107
Forgive them, Lord; they know not what they do. maxsolomon Jul 2025 #108
I have yet to see one repent. Not one. themaguffin Jul 2025 #109
Not in this life time randr Jul 2025 #110
The thing is, we don't forgive people for their benefit; we forgive to keep ourselves free of resentment and hate. Magoo48 Jul 2025 #111
Luckily wryter2000 Jul 2025 #112
No Hey Joe Jul 2025 #113
Fuck NO!!! FoxNewsSucks Jul 2025 #114
Sure. madamesilverspurs Jul 2025 #115
Idiots who voted for trump can not easily be forgiven LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2025 #116
No and I will never forgive them kimbutgar Jul 2025 #117
NO bdamomma Jul 2025 #118
You Want Forgiveness?? Mr.Bee Jul 2025 #119
No forgiveness. I'll dance on their graves, though. Does that count? Oopsie Daisy Jul 2025 #121
Not until the last MAGA and their collaborators choie Jul 2025 #122
I want them to all drop dead EnergizedLib Jul 2025 #124
No, no matter what I tried to say or do, Zilch. Paper Roses Jul 2025 #125
No. Not even my own children. They knew what he was, and what it would cost me... mucholderthandirt Jul 2025 #126
Nope! I may not know who did now...but... MiHale Jul 2025 #127
NO jrthin Jul 2025 #128
No La Coliniere Jul 2025 #129
No, not this time DFW Jul 2025 #130
NEVER!!! They have destroyed this country, happily, joyfully, willingly. niyad Jul 2025 #131
No. MuseRider Jul 2025 #133
I can't forgive those The Wizard Jul 2025 #134
No. moondust Jul 2025 #135
HELL to the NO IzzaNuDay Jul 2025 #136
I have no right-wingers in my life...I broke ties with them decades ago, just as I stopped eating fast-food... pecosbob Jul 2025 #137
Nope PlanetBev Jul 2025 #139
No angrychair Jul 2025 #140
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