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paleotn

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12. The US isn't very good at upholding our values internationally.

Sun Jul 6, 2025, 09:29 AM

Jul 2025

Haven't been for a long, long time. The early 20th century banana wars. And that whole Cold War thing. Ironically, we became very good at destabilizing democratically elected governments we didn't like. This whole Iran slog is rooted in that.

But I get your point. Just because we haven't doesn't mean we can't. We should. So lets tie aid to progress towards a 2 state solution or some other peaceful resolution of this mess. No progress, no aid.

Then again, why the hell are we sending aid to another highly developed, free market economy? Israel is more than wealthy enough to stand on their own 2 feet. Seriously, it's like sending aid to Belgium. What?! Why?! For the Amurka first crowd, imagine what we could do with that money here at home.

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