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Demovictory9

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Wed Jul 9, 2025, 08:48 AM Jul 2025

JD Vance: Some Americans Are More American Than Others VP tries to redefine citizenship in speech to friendly think tank [View all]

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/jd-vance-some-americans-are-more-american-than-others

What Vance expressed to the friendly Claremont audience was a dramatically reduced vision of American citizenship. It’s one in which having ancestors who have lived here for generations entitles you to more; a vision of citizenship that’s long existed around the world, with a notable and aspirational exception in the United States.

“Identifying America just with agreeing with the principles, let’s say, of the Declaration of Independence — that’s a definition that is way over-inclusive and under-inclusive at the same time,” Vance said.

He explained that such a definition “would include hundreds of millions, maybe billions of foreign citizens who agree” with the principles of the Declaration of Independence, dubbing it “the logic of America as a purely creedal nation.”

By the opposite token, Vance said, conceiving of American citizenship “purely as an idea” would “reject a lot of people that the ADL would label as domestic extremists, even though those very Americans had their ancestors fight in the Revolutionary War and the Civil War,” he said, referencing the Anti-Defamation League, a nonprofit that was founded to combat antisemitism and that, among other activities, tracks far-right groups.

“I think the people whose ancestors fought in the Civil War have a hell of a lot more claim over America than the people who say they don’t belong,” he concluded.

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What if they boff sofas and couches manufactured in Asia? marble falls Jul 2025 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Ping Tung Jul 2025 #16
So does that include the Africans who were forced to come here and their progeny? Walleye Jul 2025 #2
He clearly thinks he is brilliant when he spews exclusionary ideas like childless shouldnt vote Demovictory9 Jul 2025 #5
A lot of words to say that only white conservative Christians should count newdeal2 Jul 2025 #3
What the hell? yardwork Jul 2025 #4
Says the guy who changes his fucking name every few years. GoCubsGo Jul 2025 #6
I do believe I shall take his words... róisín_dubh Jul 2025 #7
So how many generations are we talking, dipshit? mwmisses4289 Jul 2025 #8
Can't make this stuff up kerouac2 Jul 2025 #9
Animal Farm??? Demovictory9 Jul 2025 #10
Does that include your Indian heritage wife and your half Indian heritage children? Norrrm Jul 2025 #11
Will we have to carry proof of our pure American ancestry with us at all times? DBoon Jul 2025 #12
Deport Usha and the Hillbilly and their half-breed children then. milestogo Jul 2025 #13
He's talking to rural property owners Buckeyeblue Jul 2025 #14
Do you get America points for ancestry, and lose them for attitude? Ocelot II Jul 2025 #15
. Patriotism is the passion of fools and the most foolish of Passions. Arthur Schopenhauer Ping Tung Jul 2025 #17
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