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mucholderthandirt

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80. Even if we had the presidency, both houses of Congress, and the Supreme Court...

Thu Jul 10, 2025, 08:50 AM

Jul 2025

We will never get that. No Dem is going to push that and risk offending "the other party", no matter how much it would help everyone.

We will retake the House next year

I think it's cute you still believe that.

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Universal Basic Income [View all] DanBaron Jul 2025 OP

The oligarchy will never allow it. CentralMass Jul 2025 #1

Fight the oligarchy markie Jul 2025 #3

No Offense DanBaron Jul 2025 #4

I agree, f'ck them, but they will never allow it. CEO and companies have already started to treat employees CentralMass Jul 2025 #12

I doubt this will ever happen bucolic_frolic Jul 2025 #2

Right DanBaron Jul 2025 #5

What Would You Suggest DanBaron Jul 2025 #6

Inflation caused as much by ... Dave says Jul 2025 #7

M1 DanBaron Jul 2025 #9

Yes Dave says Jul 2025 #11

Economics DanBaron Jul 2025 #15

UBI is a good idea but will not get homeless people off the Street by itself standingtall Jul 2025 #8

Social Support DanBaron Jul 2025 #10

Right. I dont think it is the worst place to put money, but I imagine it would be better spent on more comprehensive and SSJVegeta Jul 2025 #59

I'm not familiar with the Utah program standingtall Jul 2025 #62

Agreed. The B is for Basic TheProle Jul 2025 #23

Local homeless advocates and the city have a nice program for getting some off the streets. Igel Jul 2025 #54

Dead spot on melm00se Jul 2025 #64

Agree. But I worry for your shift key n/t leftstreet Jul 2025 #13

Writing DanBaron Jul 2025 #14

Germans capitalize nouns, don't they? Oopsie Daisy Jul 2025 #28

Right DanBaron Jul 2025 #30

I'll be honest with you, in English it's more distracting than emphatic. Oopsie Daisy Jul 2025 #34

Yeah DanBaron Jul 2025 #37

They also write their compounds joined. Igel Jul 2025 #55

Amazingly, Musk was talking about this around 2017. n/t OneGrassRoot Jul 2025 #16

Medicare For All DanBaron Jul 2025 #17

Musk's actions speak louder that wirds. He callousely fire people, CentralMass Jul 2025 #49

Because this has actually been discussed about since the 80s Blue Full Moon Jul 2025 #67

This is conservative economist, Milton Friedman's, Negative Income Tax. Tarzanrock Jul 2025 #18

I agree, but unlikely until senate is apportioned by population SheltieLover Jul 2025 #19

If you do that, might as well just abolish it or merge it with the House. Igel Jul 2025 #56

Recruiting DanBaron Jul 2025 #20

What would you see as being the floor for UBI? n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #21

UBI Payment Amounts DanBaron Jul 2025 #22

I think the thing is that true UBI SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #24

Agreed DanBaron Jul 2025 #25

$1000 per week sounds good MichMan Jul 2025 #44

So approximately SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #47

What about taxing all income over $100k at 50% and all income over $500k at 75% ? MichMan Jul 2025 #72

Sure way to lose elections SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #73

They would all be getting $50k UBI though MichMan Jul 2025 #74

That would bring in SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #75

Right On DanBaron Jul 2025 #83

Numbers that won't actually pay the bills n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #84

Are You Certain? DanBaron Jul 2025 #85

I showed a ballpark of the numbers SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #86

Numbers DanBaron Jul 2025 #87

No, I'm not going to repost SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #88

It was sarcasm. Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #91

Nope DanBaron Jul 2025 #92

You're on a discussion board. Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #93

Furthermore DanBaron Jul 2025 #26

If every adult got $20k per year Greg_In_SF Jul 2025 #27

Damn DanBaron Jul 2025 #29

Unless DanBaron Jul 2025 #31

American GDP DanBaron Jul 2025 #32

That's about the combined wealth of US billionaires leftstreet Jul 2025 #33

Yep, but the problem is Greg_In_SF Jul 2025 #36

For one year. Igel Jul 2025 #57

Anti poverty programs (SNAP, WIC, Section 8, Medicaid) could be eliminated MichMan Jul 2025 #45

Increasing taxes on 6 figure earners Greg_In_SF Jul 2025 #46

Exactly SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #48

Has to happen. No jobs even high paying ones soon. Blue Full Moon Jul 2025 #35

I Think That You Are Right DanBaron Jul 2025 #38

This article is recent Blue Full Moon Jul 2025 #41

Maybe More Recs? DanBaron Jul 2025 #39

Simplifying the Federal Bureaucracy DanBaron Jul 2025 #40

Ah...there it is n/t leftstreet Jul 2025 #42

NIH And Others DanBaron Jul 2025 #43

I believe it is time to start talking about the platform. pecosbob Jul 2025 #50

Noble aims perhaps, but near impossible to get them all SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #52

Good Ideas DanBaron Jul 2025 #53

I think Im against UBI. But I'm also not particularly attached to that opinion. SSJVegeta Jul 2025 #51

Looking at the numbers SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #58

The Nordic Countries DanBaron Jul 2025 #61

Ya think? Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #77

We can start LilElf70 Jul 2025 #60

It's simple, but kind of a cop out. IMO more needed is housing, health care, food scipan Jul 2025 #63

Every day +/- 8.5 Billion shares change hands in the U.S. markets. Tarzanrock Jul 2025 #65

Right On DanBaron Jul 2025 #68

It would take SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #69

$50,000 billions is equal to $50 trillion. Tarzanrock Jul 2025 #76

That's over 10 years though SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #79

Albuquerque has a basic income pilot program womanofthehills Jul 2025 #66

Not universal; easy to fund a program for 100 people MichMan Jul 2025 #70

Nixon advocated for it H2O Man Jul 2025 #71

Never happening durablend Jul 2025 #78

Even if we had the presidency, both houses of Congress, and the Supreme Court... mucholderthandirt Jul 2025 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author Prairie_Seagull Jul 2025 #81

The important thing to remember about UBI BannonsLiver Jul 2025 #82

Automation tax to fund UBI... JCMach1 Jul 2025 #89

If my wife's experience as a social worker is any indication DFW Jul 2025 #90