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In reply to the discussion: You can't help but notice that HAMAS hasn't shown up to protect Gazans [View all]
lapucelle
(20,966 posts)41. Hamas is desperate. The Arab League very publicly turned its back last week
when it condemned the October 7 attack and called on Hamas to release the hostages, disarm, and surrender.
Since then Hamas has released photos and videos of the hostages (who they are starving and torturing daily) in the hope of stoking outrage against Israel. Hamas also went over the heads of Egyptian and Jordanian officials to try to stoke anger against those countries for participating in the "starvation plan" by not providing enough aid. Even the Red Cross and WHO are finally making some noise about the condition of the hostages and Hamas's myriad war crimes against the hostages and the people of Gaza.
So the latest, and possibly most desperate piece of Hamas propaganda is that Israel already had a "starvation plan" in place in October 2023, either before or shortly after Hamas invaded Israel to carry out its protracted rape-torture-murder spree on October 7.
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https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-1st-entire-arab-league-condemns-oct-7-urges-hamas-to-disarm-at-2-state-solution-confab/
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/hk4lbnyulg
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crr2dwn7q40o
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You can't help but notice that HAMAS hasn't shown up to protect Gazans [View all]
no_hypocrisy
Aug 2025
OP
Sad, but true, and now he has a bloodthirsty partner in the president of our country
Walleye
Aug 2025
#66
A 3rd of all Americans are on Twitter - over 100 million Americans are on Twitter & 52 million of them are Dems
womanofthehills
Aug 2025
#91
"HAMA'S premise for war both accepted and approved of the fact that civilians would be sacrificed in horrific numbers.
betsuni
Aug 2025
#3
It's not unusual to talk about media figures in that way. And he's only posted 5 or 6 times, so
Crunchy Frog
Aug 2025
#96
Yes, clearly praising high death toll as a "welcome sacrifice" and do nothing to protect them or stop the war.
betsuni
Aug 2025
#57
Well, Hamas is a vile terrorist regime that should be wiped out to its last member.
Orrex
Aug 2025
#4
Why do you believe there were "operational bases under hospitals and schools"?
AloeVera
Aug 2025
#12
Obviously that intelligence data was not validated by after-the-fact facts on the ground.
AloeVera
Aug 2025
#32
Israel did lie. It lied about the advanced, multi-story, well-equipped "Command and Control Centre" it touted.
AloeVera
Aug 2025
#43
Intelligence is not evidence and neither is a 10+year old questionable article with low journalistic standards.
AloeVera
Aug 2025
#87
Why are you denying the existence of operational bases and other military assets under hospitals and schools?
Beastly Boy
Aug 2025
#17
They also claim that Israel had a "starvation plan" in place in October 2023.
lapucelle
Aug 2025
#28
I hope you realize how batshit incredulous your analogy is. Hamas would never get anywhere near a Tel Aviv hospital
Beastly Boy
Aug 2025
#90
A simple adherence to the laws of war would have been ample defense of civilians.
Beastly Boy
Aug 2025
#16
Probably in part because Netanyahu would continue murdering civilians regardless
Orrex
Aug 2025
#137
Hamas is partly made up of fathers whose children and wife's were murdered by Israel.
womanofthehills
Aug 2025
#126
So, you are saying that the Israelis are bombing and shooting Gazan civilians and not Hamas.
Intractable
Aug 2025
#8
Not at all. The propblem is that their PRESENCE among civilians endangers them.
Beastly Boy
Aug 2025
#19
Yes, you quite literallt denied such thing. Read the header of your post 35.
Beastly Boy
Aug 2025
#51
I think you don't know what the hell you are talking about and are trying to split hairs over language.
Intractable
Aug 2025
#67
I am tired of repeating that ad hominem attacks are against DU terms of service.
Beastly Boy
Aug 2025
#68
We are all at odds with Hamas. Shame on you for thinking I think otherwise.
Intractable
Aug 2025
#114
Yes, Hamas is nowhere to be found while the IDF is shooting innocent people seeking food
Prairie Gates
Aug 2025
#10
How little we've heard about Hamas, and anything, at all, they've actually done to help Palestinians
dlk
Aug 2025
#11
Long term goals can be loosely defined as desired outcomes, but plans are more immediate
Martin Eden
Aug 2025
#49
"Zionist ethos" is entirely ideological, and it doesn't identify land parcels except in very general terms.
Beastly Boy
Aug 2025
#70
Do you expect me to gratuitously excoriate whoever you decide I should excoriate on demand?
Beastly Boy
Aug 2025
#136
There is only one entity that has the power to end the war IMMEDIATELY and UNILATERALLY: HAMAS
lapucelle
Aug 2025
#31
"...Gazans who are being shot and bombed while trying to get food to prevent starving to death."
J_William_Ryan
Aug 2025
#27
Why would they? They're accelerationists willing to torch Gaza to weaken Israel
0rganism
Aug 2025
#46
You can't help but notice that just 8% of Democrats support Israel's military campaign in Gaza
Rob H.
Aug 2025
#72
They want to die. They knew this would be the response after their horrible attack.
IronLionZion
Aug 2025
#131