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ShadesOfBlue

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47. Malcolm Nance has no proof that was the plan....

Tue Aug 5, 2025, 12:52 PM

Aug 2025

he only conjured out of his Zionist brain. People like Nance and Hal Sparks go all nuts in the head to do mental gymnastics used to deflect criticism of Israel. It’s pathetic.

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You can't help but notice that HAMAS hasn't shown up to protect Gazans [View all] no_hypocrisy Aug 2025 OP

It's infuriating to be fighting an enemy that never shows itself Walleye Aug 2025 #1

Hamas hardly matters now. Warmonger Netanyahu has made it clear he's... brush Aug 2025 #56

Sad, but true, and now he has a bloodthirsty partner in the president of our country Walleye Aug 2025 #66

Like Hamas can stand up to 14,000 MK-84 2,000 lb bombs womanofthehills Aug 2025 #85

Fuck grok and musk fujiyamasan Aug 2025 #88

A 3rd of all Americans are on Twitter - over 100 million Americans are on Twitter & 52 million of them are Dems womanofthehills Aug 2025 #91

I don't give a fuck fujiyamasan Aug 2025 #92

According to the NYT, it's Izz al-Din al-Haddad. ancianita Aug 2025 #2

"HAMA'S premise for war both accepted and approved of the fact that civilians would be sacrificed in horrific numbers. betsuni Aug 2025 #3

I started to reach that conclusion more than a year ago. Martin Eden Aug 2025 #24

Malcolm Nance has no proof that was the plan.... ShadesOfBlue Aug 2025 #47

What do you think Hamas was trying to accomplish with its comradebillyboy Aug 2025 #58

FYI...Malcom Nance is a member of DU. sheshe2 Aug 2025 #75

He's a public figure and his presence on DU is largely symbolic. Crunchy Frog Aug 2025 #84

Legitimate is one thing, however... sheshe2 Aug 2025 #86

It's not unusual to talk about media figures in that way. And he's only posted 5 or 6 times, so Crunchy Frog Aug 2025 #96

He's a Libertarian JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #101

Five or six times and a Star Member of DU. sheshe2 Aug 2025 #128

Malcom Nance is a Member of DU.. Profile Cha Aug 2025 #76

One of their leaders announced soon after Oct 7 mcar Aug 2025 #50

Yes, clearly praising high death toll as a "welcome sacrifice" and do nothing to protect them or stop the war. betsuni Aug 2025 #57

It's one of the things that has bothered me since that horrific attack mcar Aug 2025 #59

Yes... amazing, but not amazing. (Simply ignored by a predictable many.) Oopsie Daisy Aug 2025 #69

Babies were not beheaded or put in microwave ovens womanofthehills Aug 2025 #93

And Israel took the bait. Crunchy Frog Aug 2025 #97

Well, Hamas is a vile terrorist regime that should be wiped out to its last member. Orrex Aug 2025 #4

Sadly... GiqueCee Aug 2025 #5

I believe this all began 80 yrs ago womanofthehills Aug 2025 #95

I see what you did here. Lol!! N/T AloeVera Aug 2025 #112

Before Oct 7, IDF was busy killing Palestinian children womanofthehills Aug 2025 #135

Make up your minds Johnny2X2X Aug 2025 #6

Both can be true depending on the circumstances EdmondDantes_ Aug 2025 #9

Why do you believe there were "operational bases under hospitals and schools"? AloeVera Aug 2025 #12

There's this from when Biden was president EdmondDantes_ Aug 2025 #14

Obviously that intelligence data was not validated by after-the-fact facts on the ground. AloeVera Aug 2025 #32

You say obviously, I say citation needed EdmondDantes_ Aug 2025 #33

Israel did lie. It lied about the advanced, multi-story, well-equipped "Command and Control Centre" it touted. AloeVera Aug 2025 #43

So I provided evidence of non-Israeli sources and that's not enough EdmondDantes_ Aug 2025 #79

Intelligence is not evidence and neither is a 10+year old questionable article with low journalistic standards. AloeVera Aug 2025 #87

Oh the irony! Beastly Boy Aug 2025 #98

Why are you denying the existence of operational bases and other military assets under hospitals and schools? Beastly Boy Aug 2025 #17

They also claim that Israel had a "starvation plan" in place in October 2023. lapucelle Aug 2025 #28

That's crazy JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #36

Hamas is desperate. The Arab League very publicly turned its back last week lapucelle Aug 2025 #41

I'll ask you too. writerJT Aug 2025 #81

I hope you realize how batshit incredulous your analogy is. Hamas would never get anywhere near a Tel Aviv hospital Beastly Boy Aug 2025 #90

Just as I thought. writerJT Aug 2025 #94

Considering the merits of your post, what else did you expect? Beastly Boy Aug 2025 #100

The Argument just doesn't make sense JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #104

It wasn't even an argument. Beastly Boy Aug 2025 #106

That person is just very good at writerJT Aug 2025 #109

That's kind of harsh don't you think? JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #110

The "human shield" argument is BS. writerJT Aug 2025 #80

If that were to happen JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #99

Nope. writerJT Aug 2025 #105

Disagree JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #107

We know who is doing the writerJT Aug 2025 #108

Excuse me JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #111

A simple adherence to the laws of war would have been ample defense of civilians. Beastly Boy Aug 2025 #16

Then why have they not JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #102

Probably in part because Netanyahu would continue murdering civilians regardless Orrex Aug 2025 #137

And yet Israel continues the slaughter of Gazans indusurb Aug 2025 #7

And yet, Hamas doesn't give a shit about Gazan civilians. Never did. Beastly Boy Aug 2025 #18

Hamas is like our KKK of our South. multigraincracker Aug 2025 #78

Hamas is partly made up of fathers whose children and wife's were murdered by Israel. womanofthehills Aug 2025 #126

I have 2 friends that are Christian Palestinians multigraincracker Aug 2025 #129

So, you are saying that the Israelis are bombing and shooting Gazan civilians and not Hamas. Intractable Aug 2025 #8

Not at all. The propblem is that their PRESENCE among civilians endangers them. Beastly Boy Aug 2025 #19

No not at all. Dead innocent Gazans clearly due to Israel's aggression. Intractable Aug 2025 #35

If one is in denial of Hamas aggression when they invaded Israel, Beastly Boy Aug 2025 #37

I deny no such things about Hamas. To say so is foolishness. Intractable Aug 2025 #39

How did the discussion shift from "Israel to "Jews"? lapucelle Aug 2025 #42

Good question mcar Aug 2025 #52

I know how... Oopsie Daisy Aug 2025 #60

The masks are off. lapucelle Aug 2025 #65

Yes, you quite literallt denied such thing. Read the header of your post 35. Beastly Boy Aug 2025 #51

I think you don't know what the hell you are talking about and are trying to split hairs over language. Intractable Aug 2025 #67

I am tired of repeating that ad hominem attacks are against DU terms of service. Beastly Boy Aug 2025 #68

You are at odds with Hamas then JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #113

We are all at odds with Hamas. Shame on you for thinking I think otherwise. Intractable Aug 2025 #114

That's really JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #115

How dare you think I side with Hamas! Piss off. Intractable Aug 2025 #117

I didn't say that JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #118

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Wow JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #120

That's the smartest, most appropriate thing you've said here. Intractable Aug 2025 #121

Wow JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #122

Perhaps you'll grow out of it. Intractable Aug 2025 #123

Wow JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #124

You're wrong.. JAG is a well Respected, long time member of DU, Cha Aug 2025 #130

+1 leftstreet Aug 2025 #61

Yes, Hamas is nowhere to be found while the IDF is shooting innocent people seeking food Prairie Gates Aug 2025 #10

The problem is that Hamas is to be found only among civilians. Beastly Boy Aug 2025 #20

Yahoo is a war criminal too! GreenWave Aug 2025 #64

How little we've heard about Hamas, and anything, at all, they've actually done to help Palestinians dlk Aug 2025 #11

Are you suggesting that Hamas -- whatever is left of it -- Martin Eden Aug 2025 #13

No, Hamas - whatever is left of it - can release the hostages and disarm. Beastly Boy Aug 2025 #22

Perhaps Martin Eden Aug 2025 #26

That's a whole different issue. Beastly Boy Aug 2025 #29

On the contrary, it's inextricable Martin Eden Aug 2025 #30

In this context, the Netanyahu government is immaterial. Beastly Boy Aug 2025 #34

Long term goals can be loosely defined as desired outcomes, but plans are more immediate Martin Eden Aug 2025 #49

"Zionist ethos" is entirely ideological, and it doesn't identify land parcels except in very general terms. Beastly Boy Aug 2025 #70

The 2-state solution as a negotiated settlement is glaringly impractical Martin Eden Aug 2025 #73

The answer to your question is yes. We have a precedent. Beastly Boy Aug 2025 #74

Netanyahu himself has said the hostages are not his top priority . . . markpkessinger Aug 2025 #116

I don't excoriate on demand. Beastly Boy Aug 2025 #125

That is obvious enough . . . markpkessinger Aug 2025 #134

Do you expect me to gratuitously excoriate whoever you decide I should excoriate on demand? Beastly Boy Aug 2025 #136

There is only one entity that has the power to end the war IMMEDIATELY and UNILATERALLY: HAMAS lapucelle Aug 2025 #31

It has been the power of Israel... ShadesOfBlue Aug 2025 #45

You don't even have the date right. lapucelle Aug 2025 #53

They could immediately stop the war. betsuni Aug 2025 #63

I feel like this is almost universally understood. Oneironaut Aug 2025 #15

It is not pointless. Beastly Boy Aug 2025 #23

Unfortunately I don't think that it is EdmondDantes_ Aug 2025 #25

You mean "freedom fighters". nt LexVegas Aug 2025 #21

"...Gazans who are being shot and bombed while trying to get food to prevent starving to death." J_William_Ryan Aug 2025 #27

It is what Hamas is actively doing. Beastly Boy Aug 2025 #38

It's Netanyahu Blue Full Moon Aug 2025 #40

If Hamas isn't anywhere to be found... ShadesOfBlue Aug 2025 #44

Why would they? They're accelerationists willing to torch Gaza to weaken Israel 0rganism Aug 2025 #46

Neither is the IDF or UN. Ping Tung Aug 2025 #48

The Gaza strip is occupied by several brutal forces ... TomWilm Aug 2025 #54

I couldn't help but notice that they shouldn't have to. n/t Uncle Joe Aug 2025 #55

Ok... purr-rat beauty Aug 2025 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author Rob H. Aug 2025 #71

You can't help but notice that just 8% of Democrats support Israel's military campaign in Gaza Rob H. Aug 2025 #72

Quite the post! AloeVera Aug 2025 #89

The U.S. hasn't shown up to protect the Gazans. It funds their abuse. LuvLoogie Aug 2025 #77

I think that's pretty obvious to most people here. Crunchy Frog Aug 2025 #82

The IDF shows up to slaughter civilians. denbot Aug 2025 #83

Hamas is suicidal IronLionZion Aug 2025 #103

They're not suicidal, they're martyrcidal. LeftInTX Aug 2025 #127

They want to die. They knew this would be the response after their horrible attack. IronLionZion Aug 2025 #131

But they aren't killing themselves. LeftInTX Aug 2025 #132

Never expected Hamas to protect people in GAZA Justice Aug 2025 #133