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love_katz

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28. There's that joke about what happens when we assume...
Tue Aug 5, 2025, 02:03 PM
Aug 2025

However, I would add a couple of thoughts to the discussion.

Does talking about elections being canceled or stolen through cheating have a possible affect of depressing the turnout of Democrat and independent voters? Whose cause would depressing the voter turnout serve?

The Corporate owned McGreedia makes a $hit ton on money from coverage of the elections, not to mention political ads. Are they going to be willing to pass up all that loot? In return for what?
I get that many of us fear that cheating by the Guardians of Pedophiles will steal the election, but their ability to achieve that goal can be assisted by low voter turnout.
I completely understand that our side is miserably disheartened by our loss of the last election, but it seems to me that the best way for us to win is to turn out voters for our side in ginormous numbers, which would make any effort by the Greedy Old Perverts to steal the election blatantly obvious.
I'm not sure that undermining people's trust in our election process is a good strategy for motivating people to vote.
The Pukes have been handing us golden issues to achieve a Dem victory on: higher costs of living due to the tariffs being essentially a nationwide sales tax on all of us; destruction of Social Security and Medicare; higher health care costs through destruction of the ACA and Medicaid; increase of the deficit through continuing massive tax giveaways to billionaires and large corporations; removal of financial and environmental protections from anyone who isn't uber wealthy; etc, ad nauseum.
Is it really a good idea to depress voter turnout by insisting that all is lost and we should just give up in despair?
I'm with everybody who feels that way, but I don't think that convincing people that it's all rigged and we should just give up is an effective strategy.

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Who assumes that? DFW Aug 2025 #1
Agreed JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #3
A lot of people assume that SpankMe Aug 2025 #8
Agreed. ancianita Aug 2025 #20
I don't believe that if we have a JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #2
Absolutely. And we need to be able to enforce it too. hadEnuf Aug 2025 #19
I don't make that assumption PJMcK Aug 2025 #4
We must fight like hell to keep afloat and this time GreenWave Aug 2025 #30
100% agree with you. n/t Dixiegrrrl Aug 2025 #32
Then we fight!!!!! we roll up our sleeves, grab our signs and take to the streets. Peacetrain Aug 2025 #5
There is no way on earth this is a free and fair election - gerrymandering their way to an autocracy!! lark Aug 2025 #6
Only fools assume we still have a democracy and free/fair elections. Irish_Dem Aug 2025 #7
I am quite perplexed that some hold out hope dlilafae Aug 2025 #9
it can't be a free and fair election NJCher Aug 2025 #13
I don't Rebl2 Aug 2025 #36
Because we are Democrats. republianmushroom Aug 2025 #10
Good one!!! niyad Aug 2025 #12
I don't. Nor do I know anyone who does. niyad Aug 2025 #11
I don't but I know those who do... StarryNite Aug 2025 #15
It won't be and hasn't been for awhile. Remember 2000 and the SCOTUS choosing the President for us? jalan48 Aug 2025 #14
Exactly!!! niyad Aug 2025 #18
And some might argue that what's been happening so far is just incompetence, not malevolence. erronis Aug 2025 #16
Clearly. hay rick Aug 2025 #22
Kick! liberalla Aug 2025 #17
i know right? YoshidaYui Aug 2025 #21
What is free and fair? Not a rhetorical question EdmondDantes_ Aug 2025 #23
If we win, then the election was free and fair Kaleva Aug 2025 #24
Unfortunately for some that appears to be the metric EdmondDantes_ Aug 2025 #27
Republicans have to win at the state level.... Kaleva Aug 2025 #29
Well said SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2025 #34
Depends on what is being compromised AZProgressive Aug 2025 #35
Since 2016 KentuckyWoman Aug 2025 #25
I've thought the same thing. returnee Aug 2025 #37
We CANNOT assume this vapor2 Aug 2025 #26
There's that joke about what happens when we assume... love_katz Aug 2025 #28
We know this already. It's not rocket science. lees1975 Aug 2025 #31
I have that same thought every time I hear someone... appmanga Aug 2025 #33
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