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In reply to the discussion: You can't help but notice that HAMAS hasn't shown up to protect Gazans [View all]JustAnotherGen
(37,798 posts)113. You are at odds with Hamas then
https://web.archive.org/web/20170510123932/http://hamas.ps/en/post/678/
The position toward Occupation and Political Solutions:
What do you think can be done to get Hamas to give up these insane ideas? Because it's in their charter - and they refuse to operate in good faith.
I truly believe this 'war' never ends. It never ends.
The position toward Occupation and Political Solutions:
18. The following are considered null and void: the Balfour Declaration, the British Mandate Document, the UN Palestine Partition Resolution, and whatever resolutions and measures that derive from them or are similar to them. The establishment of Israel is entirely illegal and contravenes the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people and goes against their will and the will of the Ummah; it is also in violation of human rights that are guaranteed by international conventions, foremost among them is the right to self-determination.
20. Hamas believes that no part of the land of Palestine shall be compromised or conceded, irrespective of the causes, the circumstances and the pressures and no matter how long the occupation lasts. Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea. However, without compromising its rejection of the Zionist entity and without relinquishing any Palestinian rights, Hamas considers the establishment of a fully sovereign and independent Palestinian state, with Jerusalem as its capital along the lines of the 4th of June 1967, with the return of the refugees and the displaced to their homes from which they were expelled, to be a formula of national consensus.
What do you think can be done to get Hamas to give up these insane ideas? Because it's in their charter - and they refuse to operate in good faith.
I truly believe this 'war' never ends. It never ends.
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You can't help but notice that HAMAS hasn't shown up to protect Gazans [View all]
no_hypocrisy
Aug 2025
OP
Sad, but true, and now he has a bloodthirsty partner in the president of our country
Walleye
Aug 2025
#66
A 3rd of all Americans are on Twitter - over 100 million Americans are on Twitter & 52 million of them are Dems
womanofthehills
Aug 2025
#91
"HAMA'S premise for war both accepted and approved of the fact that civilians would be sacrificed in horrific numbers.
betsuni
Aug 2025
#3
It's not unusual to talk about media figures in that way. And he's only posted 5 or 6 times, so
Crunchy Frog
Aug 2025
#96
Yes, clearly praising high death toll as a "welcome sacrifice" and do nothing to protect them or stop the war.
betsuni
Aug 2025
#57
Well, Hamas is a vile terrorist regime that should be wiped out to its last member.
Orrex
Aug 2025
#4
Why do you believe there were "operational bases under hospitals and schools"?
AloeVera
Aug 2025
#12
Obviously that intelligence data was not validated by after-the-fact facts on the ground.
AloeVera
Aug 2025
#32
Israel did lie. It lied about the advanced, multi-story, well-equipped "Command and Control Centre" it touted.
AloeVera
Aug 2025
#43
Intelligence is not evidence and neither is a 10+year old questionable article with low journalistic standards.
AloeVera
Aug 2025
#87
Why are you denying the existence of operational bases and other military assets under hospitals and schools?
Beastly Boy
Aug 2025
#17
They also claim that Israel had a "starvation plan" in place in October 2023.
lapucelle
Aug 2025
#28
I hope you realize how batshit incredulous your analogy is. Hamas would never get anywhere near a Tel Aviv hospital
Beastly Boy
Aug 2025
#90
A simple adherence to the laws of war would have been ample defense of civilians.
Beastly Boy
Aug 2025
#16
Probably in part because Netanyahu would continue murdering civilians regardless
Orrex
Aug 2025
#137
Hamas is partly made up of fathers whose children and wife's were murdered by Israel.
womanofthehills
Aug 2025
#126
So, you are saying that the Israelis are bombing and shooting Gazan civilians and not Hamas.
Intractable
Aug 2025
#8
Not at all. The propblem is that their PRESENCE among civilians endangers them.
Beastly Boy
Aug 2025
#19
Yes, you quite literallt denied such thing. Read the header of your post 35.
Beastly Boy
Aug 2025
#51
I think you don't know what the hell you are talking about and are trying to split hairs over language.
Intractable
Aug 2025
#67
I am tired of repeating that ad hominem attacks are against DU terms of service.
Beastly Boy
Aug 2025
#68
We are all at odds with Hamas. Shame on you for thinking I think otherwise.
Intractable
Aug 2025
#114
Yes, Hamas is nowhere to be found while the IDF is shooting innocent people seeking food
Prairie Gates
Aug 2025
#10
How little we've heard about Hamas, and anything, at all, they've actually done to help Palestinians
dlk
Aug 2025
#11
Long term goals can be loosely defined as desired outcomes, but plans are more immediate
Martin Eden
Aug 2025
#49
"Zionist ethos" is entirely ideological, and it doesn't identify land parcels except in very general terms.
Beastly Boy
Aug 2025
#70
Do you expect me to gratuitously excoriate whoever you decide I should excoriate on demand?
Beastly Boy
Aug 2025
#136
There is only one entity that has the power to end the war IMMEDIATELY and UNILATERALLY: HAMAS
lapucelle
Aug 2025
#31
"...Gazans who are being shot and bombed while trying to get food to prevent starving to death."
J_William_Ryan
Aug 2025
#27
Why would they? They're accelerationists willing to torch Gaza to weaken Israel
0rganism
Aug 2025
#46
You can't help but notice that just 8% of Democrats support Israel's military campaign in Gaza
Rob H.
Aug 2025
#72
They want to die. They knew this would be the response after their horrible attack.
IronLionZion
Aug 2025
#131
