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Wiz Imp

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29. Jesus never said a single word about abortion, nor did he say a single word about homosexuality
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 07:35 PM
Nov 10

They base those views on various passages in the Old Testament (pre-Jesus) while conveniently ignoring many other passages because those other passages don't tell them they should "hate" other people.

In reality, The Bible only mentions abortion once, and it’s a recipe. Numbers 5:11-31 is the only time abortion is mentioned and it’s a recipe on how to perform one.

11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephah[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”


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They base their objection on the "you shall not murder" commandment. While the 10 Commandments are from the WhiskeyGrinder Nov 10 #1
But most religions support killing in the name of their deities malaise Nov 10 #11
Sure, I'm not saying they're consistent or correct. "Righteous" killings are somehow different. But if you ask the WhiskeyGrinder Nov 10 #13
LOL malaise Nov 10 #20
So presumably they are all utterly opposed PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 10 #26
No. That's considered a righteous killing, not murder (which is an unrighteous killing). WhiskeyGrinder Nov 10 #30
Righteous, not righteous, it's still murder. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 11 #47
Their answer would be that that is your standard, not God's. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 11 #48
Clearly, then, God is a hypocrite. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 11 #49
Again, by your standard. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 11 #50
Some Catholics oppose both capital punishment and abortion DBoon Nov 11 #51
Jesus came to live a perfect life which fulfilled the law questionseverything Nov 11 #56
Jesus never mentioned abortion. n/t Coventina Nov 10 #2
Nothing tintinvotes Nov 10 #3
Jeremiah 1:5 dsc Nov 10 #4
Not a ringing condemnation but if that's all they got.... CTyankee Nov 10 #5
That was referring to a claim to being one of the Top Prophets and leader, from what I understand. haele Nov 10 #22
Nothing. And they base their positions on their own opinions/desires, and then RockRaven Nov 10 #6
The Bible never mentions conception as the beginning of life. multigraincracker Nov 10 #7
Yes and that's the Jewish perspective... milestogo Nov 10 #9
Nothing. milestogo Nov 10 #8
Numbers 5 - 11 thru 31 Midnight Writer Nov 10 #15
The trial by "bitter waters" is the only reference I can find to abortion in the bible. TomSlick Nov 10 #38
Murder Prohibition Covers It OC375 Nov 10 #10
Now it does. But it's all about definitions. haele Nov 10 #23
As a Lutheran, and from the bible: the same thing he said about drag queens - not a darn thing. marble falls Nov 10 #12
The only Lutheran I know is staunchly against abortion. He's active in his church and that's why I asked... CTyankee Nov 10 #14
Missouri Synod? We're the Shia of the Lutheran World. I'm progressive Missouri Synod, I have a sense of humor. ... marble falls Nov 10 #16
WELS is the Shia of the Lutheran world! Krazy_Kat Nov 10 #18
You Evangelicans can play cards, dance, drink wine and beer in the basement. Not we MSLs. I've gone to ... marble falls Nov 10 #21
I grew up in an MSL church. Happy Hoosier Nov 11 #43
The schools broke me. We began memorizing the entire Luther's Small Catechism in fourth grade. ... marble falls Nov 11 #44
Wow. Happy Hoosier Nov 11 #45
It got better, I moved to Akron and joined an Evangelical congregation. But I still feel myself MSL, and an Ohioan ... marble falls Nov 11 #59
From the Southern Baptist Convention in 1971: Girard442 Nov 10 #17
he said it's cool through the second trimester rollin74 Nov 10 #19
Nada. And abortion was acceptable up to birth. Hassler Nov 10 #24
He didn't say anything MurrayDelph Nov 10 #25
Jesus said as much about abortion sarisataka Nov 10 #27
Nothing. Nothing about homosexuality either. nt mcar Nov 10 #28
Jesus never said a single word about abortion, nor did he say a single word about homosexuality Wiz Imp Nov 10 #29
Nada... Wounded Bear Nov 10 #31
To the best of my knowledge, Jesus was silent on the issue of abortion. rsdsharp Nov 10 #32
The justification for not having sex with no possibility of procreation... Jacson6 Nov 10 #33
John Fugelsang has this covered in his new book, GoCubsGo Nov 10 #34
If he expanded the Temple, then your answer might be found in the works of King Herod the Great. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Nov 10 #35
Life in the womb is the potential for human life. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 10 #36
Jesus was a Jew. Chemical Bill Nov 10 #37
The same as what he said about slavery Kaleva Nov 10 #39
As someone who had read the Bible extensively, Dead Sea Scrolls, Pseudepigrapha, etc. Xolodno Nov 10 #40
Jesus himself never KentuckyWoman Nov 10 #41
In colonial America (which was most definitely Christian), I believe abortion was considered OK up until the quickening Midwestern Democrat Nov 10 #42
Nothing. Jesus Said Nothing about That. MineralMan Nov 11 #46
Not a thing Rebl2 Nov 11 #52
"Do not judge or you too will be judged" (Matthew 7:1) C_U_L8R Nov 11 #53
There are a lot of ways... Mike Nelson Nov 11 #54
Current Affairs Magazine had a piece on Christianity recently jfz9580m Nov 11 #55
Not one single word. 11 Bravo Nov 11 #57
It isn't mine so I'm not paying for it! - Jesus Xavier Breath Nov 11 #58
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