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Speaking to influencer Katie Miller — wife of Donald Trump’s controversial deputy chief of staff — on a painfully awkward podcast appearance, Musk waxed poetic about SpaceX’s latest rocket developments.

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“It’s the first time that there’s been any rocket design, where full rapid reusability is possible — well, full reusability at all is possible, or full reusability at all is possible,” Musk’s word salad continued. “This is the first design where a reusable rocket is one of the possible — with success — is one of the possible outcomes.”

“If there are historians in the future, they’ll look back at Starship and say it’s one of the most profound things that’s ever happened,” he boasted. “You can think of historic events as, where would they fit in the evolutionary hall of fame? You got things like single cell life, multi-cellular life, capturing a mitochondria and then also on that scale, probably in the the top ten, is life becoming multi-planetary.”

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“There just aren’t very many things that are in the top ten of the evolution of life, where you can basically say — where you can evaluate any given civilization or any given life form as, y’know, on that, that scale,” Musk continued. “So life becoming multi-planetary, it’s in the top ten.”