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jfz9580m

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55. In fairness, the "far left" is not just Jill Stein
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 07:19 AM
Jan 6

I think technically I am that and I dislike Jill Stein, Putin and for that matter I am not a huge Chomsky fan, though I appreciate Nathan Robinson and Current Affairs (though they do bash democrats). It is why I rarely post their articles here. Still they are well worth reading imo for reasons unconnected with electoral politics.

Chomsky’s ties to the Epstein Files and his response when asked about it made me think of how some of his ways have always grated on me.

Whether it is the far left, liberals or even Republicans sometimes, the world is not that non nuanced nor are people that boxed up.

I am generally “far left”. But I also agree with a lot of the critiques of left messaging. I saw a debate between three people all of whom I respect and like: Briahna Joy Gray, Matt Stoller and Alec Karakatsanis. It was filled with rancor, but they are all decent and on the same side
Many people may disagree with them but there is no indication that any of them are Putin’s puppets. Though Edward Snowden probably was and his whole drama never impressed me.

You can disagree with people without it being as reductive as that. The far left does it. The right does it and liberals do it. I think it has more to do with the internet version of Crossfire having become the predominant mode of debate.

I respect board rules so I don’t post more lefty stuff like Yasha Levine’s or CA here.

But while I agree on Jill Stein (never liked her and don’t buy her), I don’t think the human brain processes the world that way when not focused on explicit, boots on the ground electoral politics.

I am not even American. But America has affected my life and wallet a bunch and my slender networks are partly there, so I do follow your politics. My views of course are mostly tied to the effect tech and politics and political discourse have on the human brain.

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She should just slither away. apcalc Jan 5 #1
I thought she had. niyad Jan 5 #4
Stupid Stupid Stupid DURHAM D Jan 5 #2
The vindictive little putin-puppet is still breathing? And WTAF is she niyad Jan 5 #3
Yeah I thought i read she had died. mwmisses4289 Jan 5 #12
"We came. We saw. He died." Jedi Guy Jan 5 #16
Link please. niyad Jan 5 #20
Though she did H2O Man Jan 5 #27
Here you go. Jedi Guy Jan 5 #39
Really... the little Rat Fucker, Jill Fucking Stein. :storm: Cha Jan 6 #48
Over 10 years ago SocialDemocrat61 Jan 5 #23
Yes, I'm well aware. I even mentioned that in my post. Jedi Guy Jan 5 #40
Absolutely NOT the point! SocialDemocrat61 Jan 6 #51
Yes, I know. I literally said exactly that in my post. N/T Jedi Guy Jan 6 #52
Yet SocialDemocrat61 Jan 6 #53
I'm not sure what point, if any, you're trying to make here. Jedi Guy Jan 6 #57
Because it's irrelevant SocialDemocrat61 Jan 6 #58
So I'm justifying Stein bringing it up even though I'm calling her an idiot for doing so. Jedi Guy Jan 6 #60
There is no reason to even bring it up SocialDemocrat61 Jan 6 #61
Shouldn't she be having lunch with Putin and shutting the fuck up? dem4decades Jan 5 #5
Little Miss Irrelevant Clouds Passing Jan 5 #6
WTAF... wcmagumba Jan 5 #7
Thanks for saving us from Hillary, Jill. Look johnnyfins Jan 5 #8
In truth, Hillary Clinton did say that. Gaugamela Jan 5 #9
About Venezuela? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 5 #10
No, Gadaffi (Libya) karynnj Jan 5 #14
Ok SocialDemocrat61 Jan 5 #15
It's relevant to intervention and forced regime change of a "Socialist" country thought crime Jan 5 #21
Hillary Clinton is not president SocialDemocrat61 Jan 5 #22
The worst mistake of Obama's presidency was appointing James Comey as FBI director. StevieM Jan 5 #32
failing to hold Cheney and Dubya accountable for their war based on lies Skittles Jan 6 #54
In truth, she also once said, "what's the frequency, Kenneth?" Torchlight Jan 5 #11
Wasn't that Dan Rather who said that? MIButterfly Jan 5 #29
When and where? Link, please. niyad Jan 5 #13
You didn't know that? Polybius Jan 5 #28
Which has fuck all to do with Venezuela mcar Jan 5 #26
Jill Stein has the appeal and credibility of wet chicken skin lying in a gutter for 3 days. Maru Kitteh Jan 5 #17
Jill, please die you Putin stooge. harumph Jan 5 #18
Is Putin still paying her in rubles? The Wizard Jan 5 #19
The world will be a better place when Stein completes that task herself. tritsofme Jan 5 #24
WTF? mcar Jan 5 #25
She needed Russian money JustAnotherGen Jan 5 #34
Jill who? MIButterfly Jan 5 #30
Fuck Jill Stein RandySF Jan 5 #31
She's an asshole JustAnotherGen Jan 5 #33
And yet... Behind the Aegis Jan 6 #45
I'm getting JustAnotherGen Jan 6 #62
That is as relevant as a quote from Pres. McKinley on invading the Philipines DBoon Jan 5 #35
More evidence the far left supports Republicans. They hate Democrats and liberals JI7 Jan 5 #36
Jill Stein only appears every election cycle to screw with the results. Initech Jan 5 #38
In fairness, the "far left" is not just Jill Stein jfz9580m Jan 6 #55
Hey Jill, how did denying Harrris Michigan and Wisconsin work out for you? Initech Jan 5 #37
Libya was NOT a unilateral military operation. They empire empire unilateral drone droned Obama all the time, betsuni Jan 6 #41
Obama called the period after the death of Ghadaffi the greatest error of his presidency WarGamer Jan 6 #42
Not unilateral, Venezuela is. Libya wasn't "empire building" for one country. Venezuela looks like it is. betsuni Jan 6 #43
As provwen by Iraq War... just getting a bunch of countries to support you doesn't make it right WarGamer Jan 6 #44
No. Libyans, the Arab League, the international community, human rights organizations, France and UK wanted action. betsuni Jan 6 #46
It's the same kind of bothsider bullshit B.See Jan 6 #47
If Hillary won things would be so much better right now BoycottTwitter Jan 6 #49
STFU Jill Kennah Jan 6 #50
Stick that head back MaeScott Jan 6 #56
Jill Stein needs to go back to Russia LetMyPeopleVote Jan 6 #59
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