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jfz9580m

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55. In fairness, the "far left" is not just Jill Stein
Tue Jan 6, 2026, 07:19 AM
Jan 2026

I think technically I am that and I dislike Jill Stein, Putin and for that matter I am not a huge Chomsky fan, though I appreciate Nathan Robinson and Current Affairs (though they do bash democrats). It is why I rarely post their articles here. Still they are well worth reading imo for reasons unconnected with electoral politics.

Chomsky’s ties to the Epstein Files and his response when asked about it made me think of how some of his ways have always grated on me.

Whether it is the far left, liberals or even Republicans sometimes, the world is not that non nuanced nor are people that boxed up.

I am generally “far left”. But I also agree with a lot of the critiques of left messaging. I saw a debate between three people all of whom I respect and like: Briahna Joy Gray, Matt Stoller and Alec Karakatsanis. It was filled with rancor, but they are all decent and on the same side
Many people may disagree with them but there is no indication that any of them are Putin’s puppets. Though Edward Snowden probably was and his whole drama never impressed me.

You can disagree with people without it being as reductive as that. The far left does it. The right does it and liberals do it. I think it has more to do with the internet version of Crossfire having become the predominant mode of debate.

I respect board rules so I don’t post more lefty stuff like Yasha Levine’s or CA here.

But while I agree on Jill Stein (never liked her and don’t buy her), I don’t think the human brain processes the world that way when not focused on explicit, boots on the ground electoral politics.

I am not even American. But America has affected my life and wallet a bunch and my slender networks are partly there, so I do follow your politics. My views of course are mostly tied to the effect tech and politics and political discourse have on the human brain.

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She should just slither away. apcalc Jan 2026 #1
I thought she had. niyad Jan 2026 #4
Stupid Stupid Stupid DURHAM D Jan 2026 #2
The vindictive little putin-puppet is still breathing? And WTAF is she niyad Jan 2026 #3
Yeah I thought i read she had died. mwmisses4289 Jan 2026 #12
"We came. We saw. He died." Jedi Guy Jan 2026 #16
Link please. niyad Jan 2026 #20
Though she did H2O Man Jan 2026 #27
Here you go. Jedi Guy Jan 2026 #39
Really... the little Rat Fucker, Jill Fucking Stein. :storm: Cha Jan 2026 #48
Over 10 years ago SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #23
Yes, I'm well aware. I even mentioned that in my post. Jedi Guy Jan 2026 #40
Absolutely NOT the point! SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #51
Yes, I know. I literally said exactly that in my post. N/T Jedi Guy Jan 2026 #52
Yet SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #53
I'm not sure what point, if any, you're trying to make here. Jedi Guy Jan 2026 #57
Because it's irrelevant SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #58
So I'm justifying Stein bringing it up even though I'm calling her an idiot for doing so. Jedi Guy Jan 2026 #60
There is no reason to even bring it up SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #61
Shouldn't she be having lunch with Putin and shutting the fuck up? dem4decades Jan 2026 #5
Little Miss Irrelevant Clouds Passing Jan 2026 #6
WTAF... wcmagumba Jan 2026 #7
Thanks for saving us from Hillary, Jill. Look johnnyfins Jan 2026 #8
In truth, Hillary Clinton did say that. Gaugamela Jan 2026 #9
About Venezuela? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #10
No, Gadaffi (Libya) karynnj Jan 2026 #14
Ok SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #15
It's relevant to intervention and forced regime change of a "Socialist" country thought crime Jan 2026 #21
Hillary Clinton is not president SocialDemocrat61 Jan 2026 #22
The worst mistake of Obama's presidency was appointing James Comey as FBI director. StevieM Jan 2026 #32
failing to hold Cheney and Dubya accountable for their war based on lies Skittles Jan 2026 #54
In truth, she also once said, "what's the frequency, Kenneth?" Torchlight Jan 2026 #11
Wasn't that Dan Rather who said that? MIButterfly Jan 2026 #29
When and where? Link, please. niyad Jan 2026 #13
You didn't know that? Polybius Jan 2026 #28
Which has fuck all to do with Venezuela mcar Jan 2026 #26
Jill Stein has the appeal and credibility of wet chicken skin lying in a gutter for 3 days. Maru Kitteh Jan 2026 #17
Jill, please die you Putin stooge. harumph Jan 2026 #18
Is Putin still paying her in rubles? The Wizard Jan 2026 #19
The world will be a better place when Stein completes that task herself. tritsofme Jan 2026 #24
WTF? mcar Jan 2026 #25
She needed Russian money JustAnotherGen Jan 2026 #34
Jill who? MIButterfly Jan 2026 #30
Fuck Jill Stein RandySF Jan 2026 #31
She's an asshole JustAnotherGen Jan 2026 #33
And yet... Behind the Aegis Jan 2026 #45
I'm getting JustAnotherGen Jan 2026 #62
That is as relevant as a quote from Pres. McKinley on invading the Philipines DBoon Jan 2026 #35
More evidence the far left supports Republicans. They hate Democrats and liberals JI7 Jan 2026 #36
Jill Stein only appears every election cycle to screw with the results. Initech Jan 2026 #38
In fairness, the "far left" is not just Jill Stein jfz9580m Jan 2026 #55
Hey Jill, how did denying Harrris Michigan and Wisconsin work out for you? Initech Jan 2026 #37
Libya was NOT a unilateral military operation. They empire empire unilateral drone droned Obama all the time, betsuni Jan 2026 #41
Obama called the period after the death of Ghadaffi the greatest error of his presidency WarGamer Jan 2026 #42
Not unilateral, Venezuela is. Libya wasn't "empire building" for one country. Venezuela looks like it is. betsuni Jan 2026 #43
As provwen by Iraq War... just getting a bunch of countries to support you doesn't make it right WarGamer Jan 2026 #44
No. Libyans, the Arab League, the international community, human rights organizations, France and UK wanted action. betsuni Jan 2026 #46
It's the same kind of bothsider bullshit B.See Jan 2026 #47
If Hillary won things would be so much better right now BoycottTwitter Jan 2026 #49
STFU Jill Kennah Jan 2026 #50
Stick that head back MaeScott Jan 2026 #56
Jill Stein needs to go back to Russia LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2026 #59
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