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EarlG

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49. He could have fired because for a split second he THOUGHT he was going to get hit, but

Fri Jan 9, 2026, 04:29 PM

Jan 9

if he did, that's because instead of paying attention to what he was doing, he was looking at his phone. Which is an extremely dangerous thing to be doing when you could be a split second from drawing your gun and firing it. It certainly seems clear that if his colleague hadn't tried to pull Renee Good out of the car, she wouldn't have pulled out like that.

AT BEST for Ross, it's this:

Negligent homicide is a type of criminal liability involving the unintentional killing of another person through reckless or criminally negligent conduct. Unlike murder, which requires intent to kill, negligent homicide occurs when someone’s actions show a gross deviation from reasonable care, creating a substantial and unjustifiable risk of death. Penalties vary by state and can include imprisonment and fines.

https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-charges/what-is-negligent-homicide.html

But for negligent homicide you need "absence of intent to kill." The fact that he fired his weapon twice into the side of the car as it was going past him, and then called her a "fucking bitch" immediately afterwards, would certainly appear to put a dent in that defense.

I'm not a lawyer though so please take this as the speculation that it is...

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Officer in Renee Good shooting fired the fatal shots while filming with a phone in his left hand [View all] EarlG Jan 9 OP

Noem's made for teevee execution UpInArms Jan 9 #1

Good questions, all of them. Maybe there might be answers--who knows? ...n/t CaliforniaPeggy Jan 9 #2

Only an idiot would film himself committing a crime GusBob Jan 9 #3

it backfired clevergrrrl Jan 9 #9

Or to show around to his other Brownshirt friends. Joinfortmill Jan 9 #61

Sick. greatauntoftriplets Jan 9 #4

What if...? ScoutHikerDad Jan 9 #5

The fact that he was holding his phone surely shows criminal negligence if nothing else EarlG Jan 9 #6

Standards and Legal FiveFifteen Jan 9 #80

It also makes it a harder to make the case that he was in fear for his life when he decided to pull the trigger. Ms. Toad Jan 9 #84

yes. Codifer Jan 9 #26

Im convinced that these ICE goons clevergrrrl Jan 9 #7

I think he screwed himself EarlG Jan 9 #11

I think I know what happened, it just came to me. clevergrrrl Jan 9 #13

Exactly. His distraction prevented him from knowing the car momentarily backed up. John1956PA Jan 9 #29

it's even worse uncle ray Jan 9 #50

You're right EarlG Jan 9 #53

you can see his hand in frame briefly when he is being confronted by Rebecca Good. uncle ray Jan 9 #54

Which is apparently what he calls her mcar Jan 9 #81

He filmed himself committing a murder. Joinfortmill Jan 9 #63

If nothing else genxlib Jan 9 #8

What the hell. 😡😡 TommieMommy Jan 9 #10

He was told to film the interactions clevergrrrl Jan 9 #12

Trophy hunting is psycho/serial killer behavior, and evidence of premeditation. RockRaven Jan 9 #14

Her last words Autumn Jan 9 #15

He needs the Death Penalty. Joinfortmill Jan 9 #66

Chilling mcar Jan 9 #82

"Out here shootin' libtards, now smash that LIKE button! Don't forget to subscribe!" flvegan Jan 9 #16

Now they're doing snuff films. Scrivener7 Jan 9 #17

That's how the Abu Ghraib story broke DBoon Jan 9 #27

Jeezus. Humans need a reboot. Joinfortmill Jan 9 #68

That was my first impression as well PatSeg Jan 9 #32

That was my take on it. Lifeafter70 Jan 9 #36

Making a snuff video. drray23 Jan 9 #18

Here's the video. 17 seconds. Totally unnecessary underpants Jan 9 #19

+1 dalton99a Jan 9 #24

Renee Nicole Good: "That's fine dude, I'm not mad at you." ICE Officer: "Fuckin' bitch" underpants Jan 9 #20

He can be heard calling her a "f***ing b****" immediately after shooting her. PA Democrat Jan 9 #21

He may have been live live streaming on Facebook. John1956PA Jan 9 #22

No, they released this themselves, on purpose EarlG Jan 9 #25

It makes him look even worse MustLoveBeagles Jan 9 #33

I disagree but I guess I'll be the only one here to. Callie1979 Jan 9 #38

Why they released it, IMO dpibel Jan 9 #69

Yes! I think he was livestreaming it! EarthAbides Jan 9 #34

So he made sure he was filming, and bumps into the car orangecrush Jan 9 #65

Exactly. She's turning the steering wheel to avoid the dumbass who is filming her. Rhiagel Jan 9 #70

Kick dalton99a Jan 9 #23

Great evidence of his malice. nt SunSeeker Jan 9 #28

More and more convinced that this was a planned and provoked shooting Prairie Gates Jan 9 #30

They are proud of killing people. And maybe they get a bonus for every dead body. Irish_Dem Jan 9 #31

Trophy hunters who can't afford safaris or those stateside 'wild animal' hunt parks for rich guys? Attilatheblond Jan 9 #39

Exactly. Poor man's version of human safaris. Irish_Dem Jan 9 #46

Oh yeah..... SergeStorms Jan 9 #35

I noticed it too, but thought 'nah, they can't be that stupid, maybe just a bad view angle' Attilatheblond Jan 9 #42

Using Palantir cellphone facial recognition app? orangecrush Jan 9 #37

Pix are for creation of a database of "domestic terrorists" duckworth969 Jan 9 #51

What I was thinking orangecrush Jan 9 #64

So she was dead when the car moved toward him. Srkdqltr Jan 9 #40

The video released from his phone is fake!!! lark Jan 9 #41

I agree! See my post below! Silver Gaia Jan 9 #45

The fact that this video was clearly released in coordination with the White House is certainly grounds for suspicion EarlG Jan 9 #47

I am still suspicious. Silver Gaia Jan 9 #52

I didn't know about the noise being possibly too loud. lark Jan 9 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author jeffreyi Jan 9 #43

All I see is that she was clearly the calmer person in that situation, Silver Gaia Jan 9 #44

He could have fired because for a split second he THOUGHT he was going to get hit, but EarlG Jan 9 #49

Thanks for your response, EarlG. Silver Gaia Jan 9 #57

The "accelerating" stuff is driving me crazy! Pacifist Patriot Jan 9 #48

Did she accelerate before she was shot in the head? markodochartaigh Jan 9 #56

That's what I think... Silver Gaia Jan 9 #58

My thinking as well. yellow dahlia Jan 10 #89

Yes. But think of it in terms of parallel parking. You both Pacifist Patriot Jan 9 #83

The car shot forward after she was shot. yellow dahlia Jan 10 #88

ICE can access the phones of any person onsite of a protest duckworth969 Jan 9 #55

This is what ends Trump's presidency. Joinfortmill Jan 9 #59

One hopes 🤞 MustLoveBeagles Jan 9 #67

Amen. Joinfortmill Jan 9 #71

TOTALLY AGAINST PROCEDURE, per ex-ICE supervisor on MS-NOW this afternoon. Paladin Jan 9 #60

That could end up being the key to this EarlG Jan 9 #72

You need two hands to control any high caliber automatic... farmbo Jan 9 #76

It is contrary to all practices and training with regards to guns. yellow dahlia Jan 10 #90

Distracted attention in public moondust Jan 9 #62

My guess is that it is for Bettie Jan 9 #73

My question is, why would anyone in this situation walk as close as possible in front of a car? flashman13 Jan 9 #75

After seeing this video and the enhancement on CNN hamsterjill Jan 9 #86

If your theory is correct that would definitely indicate premeditation. I suppose sufficient premeditation could occur flashman13 Jan 9 #87

Does MN have a law against driving distracted (mobile device)? FiveFifteen Jan 9 #77

It seems odd that he released that video, it doc03 Jan 9 #78

I agree. I have thought Vance wanted to get ahead of the curve. John1956PA Jan 9 #79

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He started recording with the phone in his right hand MurrayDelph Jan 10 #91