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39. So I aked AI about the crazy
Tue Mar 3, 2026, 11:26 AM
9 hrs ago

According to U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio, the logic behind this "crazy" phrasing is that the U.S. chose to be the aggressor specifically to prevent a predicted attack on its own troops.
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Here is the breakdown of why the administration used this specific term:

The "Proactive" Part: The U.S. launched strikes on Iranian leadership and missile sites before any American assets had been hit.
The "Defensive" Part: Rubio argued that intelligence showed Iran had already "pre-positioned" missiles to strike U.S. bases the moment Israel began its own planned attack. By striking first, the U.S. claimed it was "defending" its personnel from an "imminent" threat.
Avoiding "Absorbing a Blow": The core of the argument is that waiting to be attacked would have resulted in "more casualties and more deaths". Rubio stated the U.S. would not "sit there and absorb a blow" when it knew a strike was coming.

Critics, including some members of Congress and international legal experts, have called this a "war of choice" disguised as defense, noting that the "imminent threat" was based on a prediction of how Iran might react to a third party (Israel).
Do you want to know more about how Congress is reacting to this "proactively defensive" justification?

Secretary of State Marco Rubio Remarks to Press
Mar 2, 2026 — SECRETARY RUBIO: There absolutely was an imminent threat, and the imminent threat was that we knew that if Iran was attacked – and...
U.S. Department of State (.gov)
U.S. embassy in Riyadh hit by drones - CNBC
Mar 2, 2026 — "We knew that if Iran was attacked, and we believed they would be attacked, that they would immediately come after us," Rubio told...
CNBC
Rubio: 'There absolutely was an imminent threat' from Iran - AOL
Mar 2, 2026 — Ashleigh Fields. Mon, March 2, 2026 at 2:59 PM PST. 0. Secretary of State Marco Rubio on Monday said Iran posed an “imminent threa...
AOL.com

Then it gets worse Even AI isn't buying the logic,.
The "Line of Immunity": Rubio also introduced a broader justification: he claimed the U.S. had to strike now because in 18 months, Iran would have reached a "line of immunity" where their missile and drone technology would be too advanced to stop. This logic suggests the U.S. should strike anyone who might become too powerful to be easily defeated in the future.

Makes us the bully - AI agrees. Redefining Aggression.

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Stratospheric genius dalton99a 11 hrs ago #1
Soooo..if Greenland comes under attack by anyone,we should start bombing Bengus81 11 hrs ago #2
Rubio, "We went proactively in a defensive way." Botany 11 hrs ago #3
And there is no way to repair this amount of stupid. joshdawg 9 hrs ago #40
That line got me too. yellow dahlia 8 hrs ago #43
Genuine Gibberish Botany 8 hrs ago #53
Trump had a huge rash, so we needed a distraction Johonny 11 hrs ago #4
Moses Mike too. They've got their story ....and they're sticking with it underpants 11 hrs ago #5
So what you're saying is... D_Master81 10 hrs ago #10
Yyyyyep underpants 10 hrs ago #11
Sounds like the plot of the movie Minority Report. surfered 11 hrs ago #6
It really does PatSeg 10 hrs ago #15
Indeed. yellow dahlia 8 hrs ago #45
On some level I always thought that PatSeg 8 hrs ago #52
Well said! yellow dahlia 8 hrs ago #54
Such a good movie PatSeg 7 hrs ago #57
I'm a little cynical, but. yellow dahlia 7 hrs ago #59
I guess I'm cynical as well PatSeg 6 hrs ago #69
Exactly. We have so much information at our fingertips. yellow dahlia 5 hrs ago #71
Sometimes I am like a kid in a candy shop PatSeg 4 hrs ago #74
Exactly. I was a bit of a research junkie before, now I need a self help group. yellow dahlia 4 hrs ago #75
Ha, ha, ha! PatSeg 4 hrs ago #77
Hill Street Blues Redux no_hypocrisy 11 hrs ago #7
It is too early to start drinking, and I clearly have not had enough niyad 11 hrs ago #8
I feel you orangecrush 10 hrs ago #14
On second thought, and more reading, I thought, "so what if it is too early". niyad 10 hrs ago #19
Coming with you! orangecrush 10 hrs ago #22
Yayyyyyy niyad 10 hrs ago #23
I like cinnamon pancakes orangecrush 10 hrs ago #28
Those are good. So are the chocolate ones. niyad 10 hrs ago #29
You're not alone PatSeg 10 hrs ago #16
I hear you. yellow dahlia 8 hrs ago #46
A most excellent point. There are drinking smilies, but you are correct, niyad 8 hrs ago #49
I said recently - owning a liquor store is a safe industry, right now. yellow dahlia 7 hrs ago #55
So very true.. niyad 7 hrs ago #60
It's 2003 all over again D_Master81 10 hrs ago #9
Yes, except Trump didn't even pretend PatSeg 10 hrs ago #21
MAGat logic BumRushDaShow 10 hrs ago #12
It's a done deal orangecrush 10 hrs ago #13
" ... so we hit them back first." nt eppur_se_muova 10 hrs ago #17
Remember, Trump was the kid who invented the game of "Make the Baby Cry" to get others to throw rocks at a baby Attilatheblond 10 hrs ago #27
I heard the story about throwing rocks. I didn't know the whole story. yellow dahlia 8 hrs ago #47
Read that it was his mom who outed him on that one Attilatheblond 7 hrs ago #67
Sadist, at a young age. yellow dahlia 5 hrs ago #72
Smart people generally hide that they are smart. Stupid people don't have that option. twodogsbarking 10 hrs ago #18
I guess you can't be a part of the regime without having flunked logic class and being an excellent liar. sinkingfeeling 10 hrs ago #20
That's stupid with this gang has no boundaries Clouds Passing 10 hrs ago #24
So let's make sure we have this straight: Ol Janx Spirit 10 hrs ago #25
We attacked due to a combination of Arab money, and Epstein files. patphil 10 hrs ago #26
George Orwell could not have stated it better. Wag Wag Wag the dog! flashman13 10 hrs ago #30
Marco Rubio might actually have something. chouchou 10 hrs ago #31
Authentic trumpist jibberish... Wounded Bear 10 hrs ago #32
How long did it take to cook up this bullshit talking point? Three,four days Bengus81 9 hrs ago #33
Jeezus. Joinfortmill 9 hrs ago #34
But, but question everything 9 hrs ago #35
5D Checkers sleroy49 9 hrs ago #36
I think you're right. calimary 7 hrs ago #65
Do these people understand the words they use?? lastlib 9 hrs ago #37
Wow. That IS stupid. mwb970 9 hrs ago #38
So I aked AI about the crazy Historic NY 9 hrs ago #39
Honestly, I'd prefer not to get chatbot output in response to my posts EarlG 9 hrs ago #41
Game on. Marcuse 8 hrs ago #42
Can we just fire all the Murdoch republicans already? Initech 8 hrs ago #44
"...proactively in a defensive way." Gets me - every time I see it. yellow dahlia 8 hrs ago #48
A person has to be truly ignorant to support these clowns. CaptainTruth 8 hrs ago #50
So no justification MW67 8 hrs ago #51
I see an individual who sold his soul. calimary 7 hrs ago #56
"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit." ― W.C. Fields Totally Tunsie 7 hrs ago #58
And he thinks he's paving, or better yet, smoothing the way for his own run. calimary 7 hrs ago #61
The absurd is now government policy sarisataka 7 hrs ago #62
More preemptive Republican wars in the middle east. mzmolly 7 hrs ago #63
Wow. What logic. Figarosmom 7 hrs ago #64
He meant to say, "Israel." Kid Berwyn 7 hrs ago #66
This is.... MarcoZandrini 6 hrs ago #68
Pre-taliation? AleksS 6 hrs ago #70
"Proactive defense" -- You mean OFFENSE? Qutzupalotl 5 hrs ago #73
A true clown car malaise 4 hrs ago #76
.. BlueWaveNeverEnd 4 hrs ago #78
K&R LetMyPeopleVote 3 hrs ago #79
Shouldn't their little red hats be changed to Make Israel Great Again? MIGA? Rhiagel 2 hrs ago #80
Full victim mentality on display! Aussie105 2 hrs ago #81
Mission accomplished! Aussie105 2 hrs ago #82
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