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12. When ATF or some other forensic lab can't definitely match a bullet, they say so

Mon Mar 30, 2026, 09:25 PM

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The defense will always say that that means it wasn't a bullet from the gun, while the prosecution will say that the bullet was simply too damaged.

Not being able to match a bullet to a gun is not the same as ruling out the gun as the source of the bullet.

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Bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did NOT match rifle allegedly used by suspect Tyler Robinson, new court filing claims [View all] usonian Yesterday OP

I thought this was fishy from the start. n/t rzemanfl Yesterday #1

Defense lawyer claims client is innocent EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #2

Is there a grassy knoll around somewhere? Ocelot II Yesterday #3

Patsy dweller Yesterday #4

This was a professional hit...................... Lovie777 Yesterday #5

Yup, it certainly was blue-wave Yesterday #29

This is your brain on conspiracy theories. nt BootinUp Yesterday #6

Thank you ! stopdiggin Yesterday #11

People still don't believe the Warren commission even after the shooting BootinUp Yesterday #13

there is no end to the lunacy that the 'conspiracy brain' will gobble up .... - - - - -(nt)- stopdiggin Yesterday #18

So by saying "lunacy" blue-wave 10 hrs ago #59

When I see evidence..... SergeStorms 9 hrs ago #62

this lab 'finding' does NOT say that the bullet did not come from the indicated gun stopdiggin 4 hrs ago #72

Numerous people in the operating at the hospital saw that the back of Kennedy's head was blown off. everyonematters Yesterday #27

you could see after he was shot Jackie trying to climb out the back of the convertible, as if chasing his head. Trueblue Texan 23 hrs ago #43

So we are supposed believe that blue-wave 10 hrs ago #58

. BootinUp 8 hrs ago #63

The facts are that the House assassinations Committe found there was a conspiracy. Rafi 3 hrs ago #76

Based on a faulty analysis of the audio. Throw that 2nd finding in the trash. nt BootinUp 2 hrs ago #78

Oh Lawd, there's a budding cottage industry of conspiracy theories on the RW alone. underpants Yesterday #21

I WISH somebody ELSE had had a 'good rifle'---- Jack Valentino Yesterday #41

Like the tRump fake assasination attempt that went wrong I have no doubt. nt yaesu Yesterday #7

a very neat trick - given that the shooter TOLD other people that did it stopdiggin Yesterday #8

Why did they pin the murder Blue_Roses Yesterday #9

He - a) confessed to roommate - b) stashed a rifle easily identified as belonging to him/family in nearby bushes stopdiggin Yesterday #16

Weird Blue_Roses Yesterday #20

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Oh boy... RockRaven Yesterday #10

When ATF or some other forensic lab can't definitely match a bullet, they say so Prairie Gates Yesterday #12

Exactly right. Straw Man Yesterday #15

I did notice that the defense didn't say that the ATF dgauss Yesterday #17

I haven't followed the story much rpannier Yesterday #30

And so gentle readers, another conspiracy is born . . . Aussie105 Yesterday #35

Nope. Not a rabbit hole I'm going doen. Not for this guy. OAITW r.2.0 Yesterday #14

Hard to tell whether the defense is saying the bullet doesn't match the caliber of the rifle, or if it's pushing what WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #19

One of the many "marks matching" forensic "sciences" that is of dubious reliability Prairie Gates Yesterday #23

Yep. Bite ID, blood spatter, fingerprints...whatever it takes to keep the PIC running. WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #25

Fire/burn/accelerant marks. Polygraphs. RockRaven Yesterday #26

Carpet and fabric fibers Johnny2X2X Yesterday #33

"Tool marks" and other nonsense pseudoscience Prairie Gates 13 hrs ago #52

I believe the lawyer is purposely being deceptive Bluetus 3 hrs ago #77

It's a defense claim Renew Deal Yesterday #22

Now watch them say that Charlie Kirk's bullet matches Luigi Mangione's gun... PeaceWave Yesterday #24

My guess is that the bullet hit something hard after passing thru Kirk's neck NickB79 Yesterday #28

The story says "... the bullet recovered at autopsy..." Mariana 6 hrs ago #68

Wherever it was recovered, it wasn't anywhere in his body NickB79 1 hr ago #81

The only evidence we should care about are vague engravings on bullets IronLionZion Yesterday #31

Trump wanted this to be federal case. Wonder why? 33taw Yesterday #32

Wow. More questions than answers. Joinfortmill Yesterday #34

What questions? Aussie105 Yesterday #36

Amazing deduction. Joinfortmill 14 hrs ago #50

How do we know he is dead? sarisataka Yesterday #37

Crazy theories? Let's go! Danascot 14 hrs ago #49

Depends, is my next option to almost make out with JD Vance? EdmondDantes_ 6 hrs ago #69

If you saw the video before it was taken down, NH Ethylene 4 hrs ago #70

I did see it and personally have no doubts sarisataka 3 hrs ago #73

COLOR. ME. SHOCKED. MrChuck Yesterday #38

My theory that Erika had something to do with it still stands. Initech 11 hrs ago #56

Probably means bullet was too damaged to be able to match it to the rifle Kaleva Yesterday #39

A nice, sensible response to this new evidence. Ilikepurple 22 hrs ago #44

Good! Unrepentant Fenian Yesterday #40

Shocking. C Moon Yesterday #42

is there a link to the court filing? onenote 22 hrs ago #45

I've been looking, and everything points back to the DailyMail. usonian 22 hrs ago #46

Below is a link to CBS news Quiet Em 15 hrs ago #48

Lawyer being a lawyer Johnny2X2X 14 hrs ago #51

It was a fragment Historic NY 12 hrs ago #53

Ahhh, cooler heads BaronChocula 10 hrs ago #60

That's a rough row to hoe given that the suspect confessed the murder to allegorical oracle 11 hrs ago #54

Uh oh, this is going to disrupt Fox News' narrative. Initech 11 hrs ago #55

It was an inside job. idahoblue 11 hrs ago #57

I actually hope it doesn't match. Iggo 10 hrs ago #61

Hindustan Times seems to be a go-to for planted narratives lostnfound 7 hrs ago #64

I'd pull the OP in an instant if someone refuted it, but none so far. usonian 7 hrs ago #65

The body of the article itself refutes the title of the OP Kaleva 4 hrs ago #71

With Ca$h, Blondi and Juice Box Jeanine involved Hassler 7 hrs ago #66

I wouldn't put it past them to have set up the Trump ear shot, and the Kirk one LiberalLovinLug 7 hrs ago #67

So does this mean Charlie Kirk was not killed -- or does it mean he was only an AI deep fake who never existed? struggle4progress 3 hrs ago #74

My money's on two strong candidates. usonian 3 hrs ago #75

That is a reassuring thought! struggle4progress 1 hr ago #79

This is an attorney tactic to try and get his client off. There is video of him on the roof and jumping from Pisces 1 hr ago #80