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23. One of the many "marks matching" forensic "sciences" that is of dubious reliability

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Mon Mar 30, 2026, 09:57 PM

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We got sold a bill of goods on this stuff from the 1960s to the 2000s.

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Bullet used to kill Charlie Kirk did NOT match rifle allegedly used by suspect Tyler Robinson, new court filing claims [View all] usonian Monday OP

I thought this was fishy from the start. n/t rzemanfl Monday #1

Defense lawyer claims client is innocent EdmondDantes_ Monday #2

Is there a grassy knoll around somewhere? Ocelot II Monday #3

Patsy dweller Monday #4

This was a professional hit...................... Lovie777 Monday #5

Yup, it certainly was blue-wave Monday #29

This is your brain on conspiracy theories. nt BootinUp Monday #6

Thank you ! stopdiggin Monday #11

People still don't believe the Warren commission even after the shooting BootinUp Monday #13

there is no end to the lunacy that the 'conspiracy brain' will gobble up .... - - - - -(nt)- stopdiggin Monday #18

So by saying "lunacy" blue-wave 20 hrs ago #59

When I see evidence..... SergeStorms 19 hrs ago #62

this lab 'finding' does NOT say that the bullet did not come from the indicated gun stopdiggin 13 hrs ago #72

Numerous people in the operating at the hospital saw that the back of Kennedy's head was blown off. everyonematters Monday #27

you could see after he was shot Jackie trying to climb out the back of the convertible, as if chasing his head. Trueblue Texan Yesterday #43

So we are supposed believe that blue-wave 20 hrs ago #58

. BootinUp 18 hrs ago #63

The facts are that the House assassinations Committe found there was a conspiracy. Rafi 12 hrs ago #76

Based on a faulty analysis of the audio. Throw that 2nd finding in the trash. nt BootinUp 12 hrs ago #78

Oh Lawd, there's a budding cottage industry of conspiracy theories on the RW alone. underpants Monday #21

I WISH somebody ELSE had had a 'good rifle'---- Jack Valentino Monday #41

Like the tRump fake assasination attempt that went wrong I have no doubt. nt yaesu Monday #7

a very neat trick - given that the shooter TOLD other people that he did it stopdiggin Monday #8

Why did they pin the murder Blue_Roses Monday #9

He - a) confessed to roommate - b) stashed a rifle easily identified as belonging to him/family in nearby bushes stopdiggin Monday #16

Weird Blue_Roses Monday #20

Post removed Post removed Yesterday #47

Oh boy... RockRaven Monday #10

When ATF or some other forensic lab can't definitely match a bullet, they say so Prairie Gates Monday #12

Exactly right. Straw Man Monday #15

I did notice that the defense didn't say that the ATF dgauss Monday #17

I haven't followed the story much rpannier Monday #30

And so gentle readers, another conspiracy is born . . . Aussie105 Monday #35

Nope. Not a rabbit hole I'm going doen. Not for this guy. OAITW r.2.0 Monday #14

Hard to tell whether the defense is saying the bullet doesn't match the caliber of the rifle, or if it's pushing what WhiskeyGrinder Monday #19

One of the many "marks matching" forensic "sciences" that is of dubious reliability Prairie Gates Monday #23

Yep. Bite ID, blood spatter, fingerprints...whatever it takes to keep the PIC running. WhiskeyGrinder Monday #25

Fire/burn/accelerant marks. Polygraphs. RockRaven Monday #26

Carpet and fabric fibers Johnny2X2X Monday #33

"Tool marks" and other nonsense pseudoscience Prairie Gates 23 hrs ago #52

I believe the lawyer is purposely being deceptive Bluetus 12 hrs ago #77

It's a defense claim Renew Deal Monday #22

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Monday #24

My guess is that the bullet hit something hard after passing thru Kirk's neck NickB79 Monday #28

The story says "... the bullet recovered at autopsy..." Mariana 15 hrs ago #68

Wherever it was recovered, it wasn't anywhere in his body NickB79 10 hrs ago #81

The only evidence we should care about are vague engravings on bullets IronLionZion Monday #31

Trump wanted this to be federal case. Wonder why? 33taw Monday #32

Wow. More questions than answers. Joinfortmill Monday #34

What questions? Aussie105 Monday #36

Amazing deduction. Joinfortmill 23 hrs ago #50

How do we know he is dead? sarisataka Monday #37

Crazy theories? Let's go! Danascot Yesterday #49

Depends, is my next option to almost make out with JD Vance? EdmondDantes_ 15 hrs ago #69

If you saw the video before it was taken down, NH Ethylene 13 hrs ago #70

I did see it and personally have no doubts sarisataka 13 hrs ago #73

COLOR. ME. SHOCKED. MrChuck Monday #38

My theory that Erika had something to do with it still stands. Initech 21 hrs ago #56

Probably means bullet was too damaged to be able to match it to the rifle Kaleva Monday #39

A nice, sensible response to this new evidence. Ilikepurple Yesterday #44

Good! Unrepentant Fenian Monday #40

Shocking. C Moon Monday #42

is there a link to the court filing? onenote Yesterday #45

I've been looking, and everything points back to the DailyMail. usonian Yesterday #46

Below is a link to CBS news Quiet Em Yesterday #48

Lawyer being a lawyer Johnny2X2X 23 hrs ago #51

It was a fragment Historic NY 21 hrs ago #53

Ahhh, cooler heads BaronChocula 20 hrs ago #60

That's a rough row to hoe given that the suspect confessed the murder to allegorical oracle 21 hrs ago #54

Uh oh, this is going to disrupt Fox News' narrative. Initech 21 hrs ago #55

It was an inside job. idahoblue 20 hrs ago #57

I actually hope it doesn't match. Iggo 19 hrs ago #61

Hindustan Times seems to be a go-to for planted narratives lostnfound 17 hrs ago #64

I'd pull the OP in an instant if someone refuted it, but none so far. usonian 17 hrs ago #65

The body of the article itself refutes the title of the OP Kaleva 13 hrs ago #71

With Ca$h, Blondi and Juice Box Jeanine involved Hassler 16 hrs ago #66

I wouldn't put it past them to have set up the Trump ear shot, and the Kirk one LiberalLovinLug 16 hrs ago #67

So does this mean Charlie Kirk was not killed -- or does it mean he was only an AI deep fake who never existed? struggle4progress 13 hrs ago #74

My money's on two strong candidates. usonian 12 hrs ago #75

That is a reassuring thought! struggle4progress 11 hrs ago #79

This is an attorney tactic to try and get his client off. There is video of him on the roof and jumping from Pisces 10 hrs ago #80