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182. My opinion is that, as extremely improbable as it seems, the grazing in fact occurred.

Thu Apr 23, 2026, 07:44 AM

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The first round grazed Trump's ear. Video shows he raised his hand to his ear simultaneously with the sound of the first shot. (There may have been debris flying from a subsequent shot, after Trump was pulled to the ground by the Secret Service detail.) Also, I believe the high-shutter-speed photo shows the grazing bullet in mid-air air (a few feet past Trump) after it grazed him.

In televised remarks about ten days before the Butler County attempt on Trump's life, President Biden was asked if he would release all medical records regarding his neurological testing, a fair question considering his first debate performance. President Biden replied that he would not do do. President Biden stated that, no matter how extensive such a release would be, there would still be those who would criticize their content and completeness, and who would otherwise and nit pick at them.

I think both President Biden and Trump were correct in putting a limit on how many medical records were released from their respective charts.

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YES! dlilafae Sunday #1

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SAG he is Whip-poor-will Sunday #3

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Dah winnah! raccoon Sunday #97

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I think you're right. Vogon_Glory Sunday #22

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Maybe they lied to him. Liberal In Texas Sunday #17

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Trumpsters say God deflected the bullet to save Trump's life. Norrrm Sunday #45

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Recruited a moron and then killed them Johonny Sunday #47

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No obnoxiousdrunk Sunday #52

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ding. this. AllaN01Bear Sunday #58

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Any payment? Chiefsfan Sunday #129

See post below. $4 million raised with a GoFundMe. IcyPeas Sunday #138

Don't forget the merch! MorbidButterflyTat Sunday #157

That's a rhetorical question, right? yellow dahlia Sunday #130

... True Dough Sunday #131

Do you see a bullet wound in that ear? True Dough Sunday #133

Wow. None whatsoever. Where's this photo from? I never saw it before. Scrivener7 Sunday #158

Fact Check: FAKE Photo Shows Trump With No Damage To His Ear Immediately After Butler Assassination Attempt -- It's AI Celerity Tuesday #174

that is a fake, AI-generated image, see post 174 Celerity Tuesday #175

Appreciate knowing that, Celerity. True Dough Tuesday #179

I posted pics of the wound from mainstream news reports as soon as the day it happened. I posted a pic in this OP thread Celerity Tuesday #180

Yes, but I'm looking for something since then True Dough Tuesday #181

GoFundMe raised $4 million for victims.... IcyPeas Sunday #137

And there is this... Liberal In Texas Sunday #139

Considering that four LEOs near Trump were wounded by debris misanthrope Sunday #140

This message was self-deleted by its author Scrivener7 Tuesday #178

My opinion is that, as extremely improbable as it seems, the grazing in fact occurred. John1956PA Yesterday #182

In the photo you mention misanthrope Yesterday #187

To my understanding, experts agree that the streak shown in the photo was made by an object traveling at bullet speed. John1956PA Yesterday #188

That certainly sounds like a possibility one round struck the lift misanthrope Yesterday #190

I only know one thing about this subject bluestarone Sunday #143

Biden Administration investigated this. Kaleva Sunday #152

If I may float the idea that Trump is a "Manchurian candidate" and so is the shooter, in addition Doodley Sunday #146

I've been calling him the Siberian Candidate for about 10 years now. Liberal In Texas Sunday #163

He probably had some of his "people" Crunchy Frog Sunday #148

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Many here think he's a mastermind Kaleva Monday #173

I'm not saying it was aliens, but it was aliens. flvegan Sunday #154

Essentially, yes. I do not think he was really shot, and I do think he knew he wasn't shot/supposed to be shot. 50 Shades Of Blue Sunday #155

Two media videos CNYHarris Monday #168

Not done here yet! True Dough Monday #171

Not for Nothing, but Has Anyone Actually SEEN Evidence of Anyone Being Shot/Killed at That Butler Rally? The_Counsel Tuesday #177

One video show a man standing, looking north, and taking a bullet to his abdomen. John1956PA Yesterday #183

I found the video I watched in 2024. John1956PA Yesterday #184

That idea was proposed for Orban/Hungary so why not the US? ecstatic Yesterday #185

I do not jmowreader Yesterday #191