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karynnj

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14. I think that is because we want to make things and they want to break them

Thu Apr 23, 2026, 09:08 AM

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It is much much harder to ake' things, whether it is legislation or diplomacy.

It took a full year to craft the ACA in such a way that it got the 60 votes needed. (Even then it took an elaborate effort to get the House to pass the Senate bill as it was and a smaller reconciliation bill to include some House changes that were acceptable under reconciliation. Until it passed, there was fear it would fail.

The same with key diplomatic achievements. It took 4 years and a large, very good team to get agreement between Iran and the six countries. It took Trump, one moment to tear it up. The same with the Paris agreement. It also was years of work by John Kerry to get an agreement the US and around 172 countries could agree with. Again, it took one moment for Trump to pull out.

Funding DHS including ICE could be done eventually under reconciliation, a tool we have used when we are in office for things that fit under reconciliation.

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