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WSHazel

(909 posts)
23. I will try, but I recommend Ed Zitron
Wed Jun 3, 2026, 06:29 AM
Jun 3

He is shredding AI on his blog and YouTube.

1) it is not intelligent. Current AI is a really good search engine, but it is not intelligent. It is not thinking. This limits its productive use.

2) it is insanely expensive to run. The amount of compute power needed to run a simple “dialogue” with the AI engine can eat up a monthly subscription in about an hour, depending on the complexity.

3) The entire supply chain is based on absurdly huge demand projections that would make AI 2-3x the current software industry. Why would people buy that much given its technological limitations?

4) Nvidia and others are stuffing their supply chains. They have already shipped more GPU’s then could be installed this year.

5) The data centers (think Google Cloud, Microsoft Azure, Amazon Web Services, Oracle) are buying the chips/GPUs, and many data centers have been announced but haven’t been started. A data center’s profitability is based on massive government subsidies, and there has been a bipartisan revolt against them by people. There needs to be a lot more data centers for AI to achieve profitability, and building has slowed down.

6) Circular deals - GPU buying has slowed, so Nvidia and others are paying OpenAI and Anthropic to buy Nvidia chips by buying stock in OpenAI and Anthropic. Amazon and Microsoft are doing similar with their data centers. This is a really bad sign, because it points out that the AI software companies are nowhere close to cash flow positive, but VCs are not willing to fill the breach. The vast majority of investors funding AI are able to treat that investment as revenue, thereby inflating their own stock price.

This is about a third of the problems with AI economics.

If any part of this slows down, the entire ecosystem, which has been carrying the stock market since 2022, starts to have serious problems.

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I wish politicians were smarter about bubbles WSHazel Jun 2 #1
Really? MadameButterfly Jun 2 #3
I will try, but I recommend Ed Zitron WSHazel Jun 3 #23
could you include a link, please? rurallib Jun 3 #26
Here is one link, there are many more WSHazel Jun 3 #28
THanks. This is fascinating MadameButterfly Jun 3 #31
Nvidia Betty Boom Jun 2 #5
In 1998, a broker gave me similar advice DFW Jun 3 #14
I've purchased other stock over the years, but never had one go as crazy as this one did Betty Boom Jun 3 #19
It's a spectator sport for me as well DFW Jun 3 #20
Capital gains tax in Germany (Kapitalertragsteuer ie KESt) Celerity Jun 3 #32
I wouldn't have had the patience to look that up, so tack skall du ha! DFW Jun 4 #34
If we had listened to Bernie in the first place we wouldn't be in this mess. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2 #2
I think too many people listening to Sanders in the first place is why we are in this mess to begin with. W_HAMILTON Jun 3 #13
If only Harry Reid hadn't been able to talk Sanders out of primarying Obama in 2012. betsuni Jun 3 #17
Exactly mvd Jun 3 #15
Yep nt Rob H. Jun 3 #27
50% isn't enough if they steal my work MadameButterfly Jun 2 #4
Adapt. Adjust Betty Boom Jun 2 #6
My cannonball factory has been pretty slow for a while now.....BUT AZ8theist Jun 3 #10
Replacing old inventions with new inventions MadameButterfly Jun 3 #30
There is no such thing as original anything Betty Boom Jun 3 #33
If that was true, we'd all still be scratching our asses staring at a blank cave wall. meadowlander Jun 4 #35
That is the best explanation I've ever seen for what is going on, MadameButterfly Jun 4 #39
Originality, influence, and innovation Betty Boom Jun 4 #45
Innovation is an artist (or inventor, or...) responding to art that exists, and creating something new MadameButterfly Jun 5 #48
We could have an interesting conversation about Picasso.... CTyankee Jun 4 #37
We likely could Betty Boom Jun 4 #44
What if AI is doing what artists have always done? Betty Boom Jun 4 #46
Artists being influenced by art that has come before MadameButterfly Jun 4 #38
Thanks for your thought-provoking and rational response Betty Boom Jun 4 #43
Once AGI is better than humans at all labor that generates value in a capitalist society, there is no job to adjust to. meadowlander Jun 4 #36
50% of a negative number is a negative number WSHazel Jun 3 #29
Andrew Yang was ahead of his time. Emile Jun 2 #7
Boy was he ever! calimary Jun 2 #8
OMG....WANG/Sanders!!!!!! Seriously....2028!!!!! a kennedy Jun 3 #12
Wang/Sanders 2028. a kennedy Jun 3 #16
Financing shouldn't be hard to obtain for an Independent run DFW Jun 3 #21
Sorry, but remember he's not a Democrat gulliver Jun 3 #9
you really need to get over that MadameButterfly Jun 4 #40
I'll give your advice about what I need to get over... gulliver Jun 4 #42
I do not have any good answers to any of this. I used to tell people if you state of stupid Jun 3 #11
You don't think robots can fix robots? Emile Jun 3 #22
Yes, there is no doubt that can be done. I also wonder at what point we have to state of stupid Jun 3 #25
That's the problem MadameButterfly Jun 4 #41
We shoudl set up a basic income Matthew28 Jun 3 #18
This has been coming since the 1980s. Blue Full Moon Jun 3 #24
A 50 percent tax is only slightly more than half of the taxes upon the richest people in this country Jack Valentino Jun 4 #47
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