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DFW

(60,892 posts)
19. I sort of treat it like "Thanksgiving" anyway
Sun Jun 7, 2026, 04:42 AM
Jun 7

It may be the day the Declaration was signed, but it certainly didn´t make the "United States" a country yet. There was the whole mess of five years of war against the British first. Even after Cornwallis surrendered, it took over six years for the Constitution to be ratified, and almost another year after that before it went into effect on March 4th, 1789. There was a lot of bickering and infighting as to the makeup of the country-to-be, as the small states like Delaware were apprehensive of being drowned by the bigger states like Virginia (hence two Senators for each state, regardless of size or population--no one in 1787 envisioned a North Dakota or a Wyoming). July 4 is a convenient date for a holiday, but it certainly didn´t represent the day the USA came to exist as an acknowledged sovereign country.

But early March is not ideal for picnics or fireworks in much of North America, so July 4th it is. Once again, my wife and I will probably go down to Köln and celebrate with our German friends of the Amerika Haus, which is a bi-national cultural foundation started after World War II. Thomas Jefferson remains my philosophical hero of the 18th century, and to have written the Declaration of Independence at age 33 was no small feat.

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same... lapfog_1 Jun 7 #1
Samesies AfternoonJoe Jun 7 #2
100% agree and understand. Tsf has sucked all my good feelings for this chicoescuela Jun 7 #3
No it's not too strong of a reaction MustLoveBeagles Jun 7 #4
I get it, and no, that's not too strong of a reaction. lees1975 Jun 7 #5
Oh I can't wait to go to Chicago to see the Obama Presidential Center! MIButterfly Jun 7 #7
I'm excited. lees1975 Jun 7 #16
Enjoy the festival! Chicago is the only city left that I want to visit but haven't.... electric_blue68 Jun 7 #9
No wonder his casinos failed. Totally Tunsie Jun 7 #6
Seems like an excellent day for another No Kings protest RockCreek Jun 7 #8
Same here wendyb-NC Jun 7 #10
My son is going to Canada, does not want to be here, so not too strong of a reaction. nt cliffside Jun 7 #11
50 years ago, I had some fear that Nixon was gonna do something like "You people had 200 good year run... Attilatheblond Jun 7 #12
You're not ruffling my feathers because I'm feeling about the same. TSF has ruined everything festive Deuxcents Jun 7 #13
I will celebrate to remember our days of progress struggle4progress Jun 7 #14
Yes Timewas Jun 7 #15
July 4 is my husband's birthday Freddie Jun 7 #17
Zackly right, MIButterfly.. Permanut Jun 7 #18
I sort of treat it like "Thanksgiving" anyway DFW Jun 7 #19
Not too strong of a reaction. A lot of people feel that way. wnylib Jun 7 #20
Not much to celebrate fujiyamasan Jun 7 #21
Agree. There's nothing to celebrate. sinkingfeeling Jun 7 #22
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