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In reply to the discussion: Who understands the effectiveness of Obama's nuclear deal with Iran? [View all]RockRaven
(20,036 posts)5. You interlocutor is, for lack of a better word, a liar.
The Wikipedia article is readily accessible to them, easy to understand, and sufficiently comprehensive that there is not much excuse for peddling such misinformation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_nuclear_deal
some selected excerpts, emphasis mine:
The U.S. certified in April 2017 and in July 2017 that Iran was complying with the deal.[322][323] On 13 October 2017, President Trump announced that he would not make the certification required under the Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act, accusing Iran of violating the spirit of the deal and calling on Congress and international partners to "address the deal's many serious flaws", though he stopped short of terminating the agreement.[324][325]
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Rouhani,[327] Theresa May, Emmanuel Macron, Angela Merkel, and European Union foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini said the agreement was working well and that no one country could break it, reconfirming support for the deal. Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov confirmed that Iran was in compliance.[327]
In 2018, IAEA inspectors spent an aggregate of 3,000 calendar [person-]days in Iran, installing seals and collecting surveillance camera photos, measurement data, and documents for further analysis. In March 2018, IAEA Director Yukiya Amano said that the organization had verified that Iran was implementing its nuclear-related commitments.[328] On April 30, the U.S. and Israel said that Iran had not disclosed a past covert nuclear weapons program to the IAEA, as required.[329][330]
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On 8 May 2018, the U.S. officially withdrew from the JCPOA after Trump signed a Presidential Memorandum ordering reinstatement of sanctions.[333][334][335][336] The IAEA continued to certify Iranian compliance.[337] Other signatories said they would comply with the deal even absent the U.S.[338]
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Who understands the effectiveness of Obama's nuclear deal with Iran? [View all]
Baitball Blogger
Wednesday
OP
Note the date. Aug 2017. By 2018, before US withdrawal, the IAEA was in country, inspecting, and certified compliance.
RockRaven
Wednesday
#6
Yes there is no rewriting history. At the time Trump pulled the US out, every other party to the agreement
RockRaven
Wednesday
#12
You realize those numbers are citations and you can check whether they say what the article says?
RockRaven
Wednesday
#14
What is also conveniently omitted is that inspectors were refused entry after
lostincalifornia
Wednesday
#28
It was a starting point, and throwing that agreement out instead of using it
lostincalifornia
Wednesday
#23
What did they expect when trump unilaterally pulled out of the agreement?
lostincalifornia
Wednesday
#26
Exactly. Trump unilaterally tore up that agreement in 2017. Why would some
lostincalifornia
Wednesday
#29