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53. Snowden's duality admirably summed up in the next-to-last graph

Fri Jul 12, 2013, 05:08 PM

Jul 2013

Snowden is obviously a very bright young man who no doubt acted in earnest, and he is in quite an international legal pickle given the U.S. espionage charges against him. But he also shows signs of a disturbingly solipsistic world view that automatically turns his allies into doers of right and his legal pursuers into oppressors, and in which he casts himself heroically as merely someone who has "been made stateless and hounded for my act of political expression."

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How the Snowden Affair Became a Freak Show [View all] ProSense Jul 2013 OP

Kick! n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #1

Some good quotes by Snowden making the rounds from this flamingdem Jul 2013 #2

Unless you're gay. Then the gloves are off! randome Jul 2013 #7

Well, there is that. Russia is no champion of human rights, MineralMan Jul 2013 #21

Yeah, that's just the most flagrant example. Russia is no bastian of freedom by many measures. randome Jul 2013 #54

Do you need any further proof that this guy was a complete tool, and not ready for primetime? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #22

holy shit, Snowman actually said That? Whisp Jul 2013 #28

Stockholm Syndrome? Cha Jul 2013 #73

It's certainly a freak show on DU whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #3

Yeah, those authoritarians who are backing Russia pnwmom Jul 2013 #5

You must be reading a different DU. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #9

Same DU. You must be skipping posts like this: pnwmom Jul 2013 #17

Well, that was stupid. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #65

lol.. I read your post and Cha Jul 2013 #75

Through the looking-glass, we are! -nt CakeGrrl Jul 2013 #102

How extended surveillance and secret courts made it back into the media... allin99 Jul 2013 #4

Yeah, if only ProSense Jul 2013 #6

the only person trying to avoid the talk about surveillance... allin99 Jul 2013 #11

That would ProSense Jul 2013 #19

and yourself. But if anything about nsa activities... allin99 Jul 2013 #23

You know ProSense Jul 2013 #27

okay, next time you post about... allin99 Jul 2013 #31

The point ProSense Jul 2013 #39

I'm with you allin RobertEarl Jul 2013 #61

Clap on... clap off... the clapper... Life Long Dem Jul 2013 #29

You, personally, are primarily responsible for trying to make it about Snowden on DU muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #56

No ProSense Jul 2013 #63

No, she's not. ProSense is posting facts and there are those who can't Cha Jul 2013 #76

ProSense has started 151 threads about Snowden muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #78

So? BFD. I and many others on DU have appreciated Cha Jul 2013 #81

So you appreaciate the freak show. It diverts attention from the US government spying on Americans muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #82

Just because you say it's a "freak show" doesn't make it so. In fact Cha Jul 2013 #83

ProSense calls it a 'freak show' in the title muriel_volestrangler Jul 2013 #84

One man's freak show, is another man's revolutionary movement. Rex Jul 2013 #8

There are lots of things to find funny, MineralMan Jul 2013 #25

Ya maybe not funny but ironic. Rex Jul 2013 #32

It's not an enviable position to be in, certainly. MineralMan Jul 2013 #40

More smear ... GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #10

It surely has on DU. Take a bow. cali Jul 2013 #12

Well, ProSense Jul 2013 #13

oh myyyyyyy.... Whisp Jul 2013 #33

no matter how many times you post that link cali Jul 2013 #36

How many of those 17 hide do you consider to be "gratuitous?" Number23 Jul 2013 #67

I would take cali's posts anyday, over some repetative, boring ass rethoric darkangel218 Jul 2013 #93

So now hateful, anti-social behavior is just "honesty and integrity?" You people Number23 Jul 2013 #96

And I got jumped on by this person for an offhand remark about Bolivia? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #69

Perheps because she ACTUALLY contributes to the board. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #92

!!???!! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #104

Thats how you feel about anyone who disagrees with you? darkangel218 Jul 2013 #105

!!???!! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #106

The joke is on you. darkangel218 Jul 2013 #107

Well alrighty then! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #108

Meanwhile, folks are cheering for graham4anything's PPR Number23 Jul 2013 #97

G4A was harmless. I never monitor tp's, but I haven't seen a page like that since BBI. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #103

Impressive. aquart Jul 2013 #90

Well, his "human rights" quote sure rings hollow, MineralMan Jul 2013 #18

I think that's deplorable, of course. you know you didn't have to ask cali Jul 2013 #30

I appreciate Prosense's posts. They always include MineralMan Jul 2013 #35

The same that was said about statistics can said about facts cali Jul 2013 #38

Indeed. So I have noticed. MineralMan Jul 2013 #41

do elaborate on the comment that "irony is an interesting thing" cali Jul 2013 #44

Irony is difficult to explain, so I think I'll pass. MineralMan Jul 2013 #46

Ah, I see. So irony to you is what pornography was to Justice Stewart cali Jul 2013 #47

:shrug: MineralMan Jul 2013 #48

Snowden is an anti US propaganda tool. He has much in common with his idol. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #14

Didn't Kucinich use to vote similar to RP on surveillance bills?... allin99 Jul 2013 #15

You sound as if I'm supposed to be impressed by something Dennis Kucinich did? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2013 #58

Fair enough. :D allin99 Jul 2013 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author allin99 Jul 2013 #59

Sure does nt Progressive dog Jul 2013 #62

R#5 & K for, I'm in awe of the job you've done on this topic, P/S!1 n/t UTUSN Jul 2013 #16

My new BUNN is more of a hero than Snowden. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #20

So this is okay with you? Quantess Jul 2013 #24

K & R Scurrilous Jul 2013 #26

Snowball just got the Kiss teh Pootie Bootie award! flamingdem Jul 2013 #34

"His brain has not only been washed, as they say... It has been dry cleaned." Scurrilous Jul 2013 #42

Slavery wasn't wrong. Just controversial NoOneMan Jul 2013 #37

Uhhhhhhh Maximumnegro Jul 2013 #71

Surprised? NoOneMan Jul 2013 #72

Snowden comedy on twitter - offers include a phoenix and agreement to keep Anna Chapman 100m away flamingdem Jul 2013 #43

There he goes again.. Mr I am so innocent as the driven snow.. or Cha Jul 2013 #77

"Something's wrong when the NSA manages to make the oppressive Vladimir Putin look like the good guy Hydra Jul 2013 #45

lmao. that's so true! allin99 Jul 2013 #49

It was right there staring at me Hydra Jul 2013 #51

It's the people praising Snowden that are doing that. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #70

That's an easy one to answer -- HB Gary and friends. Waiting For Everyman Jul 2013 #50

DU rec...nt SidDithers Jul 2013 #52

Snowden's duality admirably summed up in the next-to-last graph BeyondGeography Jul 2013 #53

yeah, he's quite the little innocent.. and more than Cha Jul 2013 #79

The very fact that some here are trying so hard to refute this says the facade is crumbling leveymg Jul 2013 #55

"Refute" what? n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #57

I've never let the Wall Street Journal decide for me what constitutes a freak show. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2013 #64

? n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #66

If the leaks showed no wrongdoing, then why is everyone so upset? burnodo Jul 2013 #68

Because this guy is a 2-bit hacker/criminal and is being treated like a hero. DCBob Jul 2013 #85

Interesting burnodo Jul 2013 #88

Yes it is.. DCBob Jul 2013 #89

"The National Security Agency leaker went out of his way to praise Moscow for its integrity and Cha Jul 2013 #74

Thank You For Sharing How Tortured Logic Becomes Terrible Policy Becomes PRISM Rationalization cantbeserious Jul 2013 #80

Unrec. nt darkangel218 Jul 2013 #86

"NSA leaker manages to make the oppressive Vladimir Putin look like the good guy" DCBob Jul 2013 #87

Hey bush looked into Putin's eyes and saw Cha Jul 2013 #91

This "Snowden hiding in Russia" thing needs to be put in perspective a bit 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #94

Snowden ProSense Jul 2013 #95

Like Snowden had some wonderful alternative places to go 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #98

Actually, ProSense Jul 2013 #99

Exhibit A: Bradley Manning <--that is why Snowden fled, and I don't blame him. 99th_Monkey Jul 2013 #100

Nonsense. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #101