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In reply to the discussion: The entire Democratic leadership opposed Grayson amendment to stop arming cops with DOD weapons [View all]NickB79
(19,668 posts)126. "Better-armed criminals"? Bull. Fucking. Shit.
Please, show us the stats on all these "better-armed criminals" that require ordinary cops to have access to military-grade hardware.
Here, I'll even help you out: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/05/07/181998015/rate-of-u-s-gun-violence-has-fallen-since-1993-study-says
Since 1993, the United States has seen a drop in the rate of homicides and other violence involving guns, according to two new studies released Tuesday. Using government data, analysts saw a steep drop for violence in the 1990s, they saw more modest drops in crime rates since 2000.
"Firearm-related homicides dropped from 18,253 homicides in 1993 to 11,101 in 2011," according to a report by the federal Bureau of Justice Statistics, "and nonfatal firearm crimes dropped from 1.5 million victimizations in 1993 to 467,300 in 2011.
There were seven gun homicides per 100,000 people in 1993, the Pew Research Center study says, which dropped to 3.6 gun deaths in 2010. The study relied in part on data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
"Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49 percent lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation's population grew," according to the Pew study. "The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearmassaults, robberies and sex crimeswas 75 percent lower in 2011 than in 1993."
"Firearm-related homicides dropped from 18,253 homicides in 1993 to 11,101 in 2011," according to a report by the federal Bureau of Justice Statistics, "and nonfatal firearm crimes dropped from 1.5 million victimizations in 1993 to 467,300 in 2011.
There were seven gun homicides per 100,000 people in 1993, the Pew Research Center study says, which dropped to 3.6 gun deaths in 2010. The study relied in part on data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
"Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49 percent lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation's population grew," according to the Pew study. "The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearmassaults, robberies and sex crimeswas 75 percent lower in 2011 than in 1993."
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The entire Democratic leadership opposed Grayson amendment to stop arming cops with DOD weapons [View all]
Report1212
Aug 2014
OP
All the way on the east coast, I feel for you! We don't usually identify Marin County as anything
maddiemom
Aug 2014
#130
It was more kissing campaign contributions from the MIC and police support good-bye than
Dustlawyer
Aug 2014
#132
Most politicians blow with the wind no matter which party. Seldom are politicians that have the
RKP5637
Aug 2014
#7
Most politicians are vitally interested in performing their principal function, which is
Jackpine Radical
Aug 2014
#42
Grayson likely referred to Madison when he claimed "...one might venture to say that the weapons
ancianita
Aug 2014
#143
It is time for the entire Democratic leadership to change their mind - they have no right to arm the
jwirr
Aug 2014
#10
It's hard to argue with the logic of the article linked within the linked article:
JEFF9K
Aug 2014
#35
You only have to look at what happened when the State Police, not pointing rifles, without snipers,
dbackjon
Aug 2014
#48
The fact that Ferguson's representative Clay voted for the amendment should tell you something
ancianita
Aug 2014
#144
You either don't understand the concept of "black-and-white" or you are trying to ...
JEFF9K
Aug 2014
#56
what it does show is that this equipment is entirely unneccessary in this situation
frylock
Aug 2014
#71
what is it that you're afraid of that you would invite tactical units into your neighborhood?
frylock
Aug 2014
#141
No. I am not playing games and I am not defending the militarization of our police forces.
cui bono
Aug 2014
#88
you mean how many were hit with rubber bullets or were subjected to gas canisters?
frylock
Aug 2014
#66
too many people only give a shit about looking cool in their Democratic party letterman jacket.
frylock
Aug 2014
#168
Now watch some Right Winger give a list of all Dems that voted for it....
Spitfire of ATJ
Aug 2014
#24
Sure would be nice if Democrats would act like Democrats (like Grayson, Kucinich, et al)
Roland99
Aug 2014
#26
The party labels stay the same while the ideals change. Happened before and it's happening now.
L0oniX
Aug 2014
#101
Oh, meant to say: I can't wait for the day our local police force are equipped with tanks to
maddiemom
Aug 2014
#40
With the ability of some of the weapons to be purchased there may be times when the extra equipment
Thinkingabout
Aug 2014
#60
End the failed drug war and not only will they not need this hardware but we'll find
TheKentuckian
Aug 2014
#159
Bullshit, semiautomatic weapons have been available for generations. Stop the excuses.
TheKentuckian
Aug 2014
#161
I have not made excuses, this is reality, would you want to step out in a
Thinkingabout
Aug 2014
#162
What movie did you see this in? What you describe is pretty much nonexistent.
TheKentuckian
Aug 2014
#166
There's about 2% difference btwn the DEMS and the GOP, but militarizing the Police Force isn't part
blkmusclmachine
Aug 2014
#68
Jobs are usually a factor, but Ferguson's own representative Clay voted for the amendment,
ancianita
Aug 2014
#145
Just another reason for me to not give the national party the time of day, much less money.
hobbit709
Aug 2014
#82
Has anyone considered the possibility that Grayson's amendment is not a good idea.
JEFF9K
Aug 2014
#98
Yes. I live in Boston, land of the Marathon attack. I considered that and rejected.
merrily
Aug 2014
#103
How is the MIC supposed to turn a profit if the Military doesn't "surplus" equipment
Thor_MN
Aug 2014
#127
Once again, thank you Rep. Grayson for continuing to bring common sense to an increasingly insane
maddiemom
Aug 2014
#128
They are all rat fuckers. Neither side of the aisle care one bit about us little people.
Hotler
Aug 2014
#156
It's clear that neither party is interested in promoting the interests of the common folk.
Liberal_from_va34
Aug 2014
#164
+1 And this Democratic administration has actively resurrected and expanded the programs.
woo me with science
Aug 2014
#176