General Discussion

And yes, either Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton was going to be president. No one with a genuine connection to reality could possibly have believed otherwise. But I guess that encompasses a lot of voters in the past election.

If you wanted reality-based possibilities for president that were not a Democrat or Republican, the arrangements for that would have required a lot of hard work on party building, starting decades ago, not the usual last-minute electoral fantasies of the uber-left. If you weren't willing to put in that kind of work, tough shit. You have no right to complain. If you actually did, but it fell short, good for you, but it still doesn't change the reality on election day, or the delusional nature of other expectations.

And your unwillingness to answer simple and direct questions is duly noted. That's always my first clue to an intellectually bankrupt argument. But throwing the country against the wall and breaking it into pieces, then crossing your fingers that those pieces will magically re-assemble themselves into something better, is not even a semblance of a political or social plan. Maybe the next four years will finally convince people afflicted wth chronic Naderitis of that fact.

Let's start with who you voted for. I voted for Clinton, and I will say that unashamedly. Can you say the same about your choice?