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36. This thread is about the poll.

Reply to Irish_Dem (Reply #31)

Tue Oct 24, 2017, 11:28 PM

Oct 2017

Responses in the thread should be about the poll and its credibility. Your post does not belong here.

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Bernie Sanders becomes most popular national politician, most favored by minorities [View all] LittleBlue Oct 2017 OP

The Observer is owned by Jared Kushner. JaneQPublic Oct 2017 #1

Does he own the Harvard poll? nt LittleBlue Oct 2017 #2

Someone does Not Ruth Oct 2017 #4

Its a tough group. Don't take it personally. rgbecker Oct 2017 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Oct 2017 #8

Some of us are not naive about Kushner. emulatorloo Oct 2017 #13

Nobody here is throwing Sanders "under the bus". progressoid Oct 2017 #44

So? emulatorloo Oct 2017 #46

Not talking about normal criticism. progressoid Oct 2017 #70

IMHO Having a man open a women's convention was a poor decision emulatorloo Oct 2017 #72

Those feelings are understandable HerbChestnut Oct 2017 #145

Fair enough. Seems like I saw some of both emulatorloo Oct 2017 #152

Indeed. PatrickforO Oct 2017 #60

"He's a popular punching bag DU." SO TRUE. SammyWinstonJack Oct 2017 #155

That is more true than you realize. murielm99 Oct 2017 #23

Are you implying that Kushner's poll is FAKE NEWS? politicaljunkie41910 Oct 2017 #49

Banana murielm99 Oct 2017 #57

Controlled release no less. ucrdem Oct 2017 #147

Truth is truth no matter whose mouth it comes out of, and PatrickforO Oct 2017 #61

"His" message murielm99 Oct 2017 #63

You believe everything Jared Kushner says? Ok. emulatorloo Oct 2017 #11

The Harvard poll doesn't say what you claim it does. pnwmom Oct 2017 #35

Of *course* it doesn't! The whole thing is so silly and contrived. NurseJackie Oct 2017 #114

And yet it keeps coming back to haunt us, over and over. pnwmom Oct 2017 #133

Two reasons: NurseJackie Oct 2017 #137

Thank you. cwydro Oct 2017 #123

Steve Bannon is #11 on the popularity list, lapucelle Oct 2017 #146

How can you say ANY of them were more popular than Obama and Biden pnwmom Oct 2017 #148

That's exactly my point. lapucelle Oct 2017 #149

This is the sentence that confused me: pnwmom Oct 2017 #150

I was being ironic. lapucelle Oct 2017 #151

Current publisher is Kushners brother-in-law... VOX Oct 2017 #69

Yes, while Jared is still Owner. JaneQPublic Oct 2017 #84

Is Flynn on Jared's payroll? lapucelle Oct 2017 #95

+1 (NT) JaneQPublic Oct 2017 #125

Good catch. nt ucrdem Oct 2017 #101

Right Me. Oct 2017 #3

Sanders is our version of Trump Motownman78 Oct 2017 #5

Some day the US will join the advanced countries of the world and offer Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #19

What does that have to do with the OP? George II Oct 2017 #54

Sure...it will happen tomorrow...we had 60 votes in the Senate, the House, and the presidency and Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #105

Sadly it won't happen tomorrow. But will have to happen if we wish to stay a Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #121

We can use the ACA to get a system similar to Germany...I think we have a shot at that..and it will Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #122

I beg to differ. Bernie got the discussion going, and more and more people PatrickforO Oct 2017 #66

Why, because there is another Motownman78 Oct 2017 #80

Discussion that will lead nowhere...I wish it wasn't so. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #106

that doesn't make any sense. They feel free to attack it because they are afraid of what it might JCanete Oct 2017 #131

If we support single payer in 18, we run the risk of having the GOP using it against us as Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #134

That is not accurate at all. First, Trump has proven just how powerful the President actually is, JCanete Oct 2017 #74

It is the same Motownman78 Oct 2017 #79

Again, really off-base in terms of what the left demands. Compromise in message is different JCanete Oct 2017 #85

This. So much this. Kentonio Oct 2017 #97

OH, good. Bernie's a corporate fascist know-nothing who's in over his head? HughBeaumont Oct 2017 #96

Lol. Harvard Harris again? Haven't they been proven to skew their polling to create an outcome? Wwcd Oct 2017 #6

Really? GulfCoast66 Oct 2017 #9

Hmmm. Not a good try. Kingofalldems Oct 2017 #10

Heads are spinning in the bowels of DNC head quarters CentralMass Oct 2017 #12

More like ROFL Wwcd Oct 2017 #41

Why? George II Oct 2017 #55

Heads are IN Plucketeer Oct 2017 #73

Independents outnumber Democrats by over a third Not Ruth Oct 2017 #14

FWIW Not every independent is liberal/progressive. A fair amt are conservative reactionaries emulatorloo Oct 2017 #17

Not saying you're wrong, just trying to understand your point... which is? InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #26

Poster seems to be saying all the 42 percent independents are liberal/progressives emulatorloo Oct 2017 #29

Ohh okay, gotcha. Independents clearly have a range of views, on varying issues, InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #33

Not in this poll they don't. There were considerably more Democrats than Independents. pnwmom Oct 2017 #27

Hillary had higher favorability in 2013, 3 years before the next Presidential election stevenleser Oct 2017 #15

Incredibly high favor ability right up to her announcing a run. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #21

When the GOP have three (or in Hillary's case more) years to focus on the leading Democratic stevenleser Oct 2017 #28

Yep. It's too bad the election wasn't held in 2013 Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #53

Or 1981. George II Oct 2017 #56

Let me be the first to say I don't give a rip leftofcool Oct 2017 #16

Most favored by minorities? LexVegas Oct 2017 #18

Against trump who wouldn't be most favored by POCs? Most of us here would be too. brush Oct 2017 #34

Clearly the pollsters are lying about their results, because we all know that what established JCanete Oct 2017 #75

I know I don't believe that poll either...going to look at the internals...and see. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #110

Banana murielm99 Oct 2017 #20

Bad Bernie, wants education, healthcare, clean food and water. Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #22

So do lots of other people. murielm99 Oct 2017 #24

I hear you, but I have been busy defending Hillary all day. Bernie deserves Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #31

This thread is about the poll. murielm99 Oct 2017 #36

Many apologies, please feel free at anytime to delete my posts if off topic. Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #37

Ignore the haters/dividers. DLevine Oct 2017 #100

other posters here have no power to delete your posts for being off topic Voltaire2 Oct 2017 #141

Not THIS again! Read the Harvard poll. They only compared 4 Democrats along with Bernie pnwmom Oct 2017 #25

Considering his name recognition its a very low score. Hillary was generally 10 points higher stevenleser Oct 2017 #30

Agreed. And I wonder why they don't include Joe Biden in this poll? pnwmom Oct 2017 #32

Regarding Bernie... bagelsforbreakfast Oct 2017 #38

Change? murielm99 Oct 2017 #39

Change vs. same old same old - not a surprise n/m bagelsforbreakfast Oct 2017 #40

Change will happen only by electing Democrats...and we are a center left country...so we won't get Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #116

It's also why they voted for Obama. shanny Oct 2017 #86

This is my point: murielm99 Oct 2017 #87

Damn. shanny Oct 2017 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author murielm99 Oct 2017 #89

Yeah, okay. NanceGreggs Oct 2017 #42

Post removed Post removed Oct 2017 #50

Thats some rightwing bull crap there. revmclaren Oct 2017 #62

Bernie said he lost fair and square. So fuck that fake-ass Assange and Putin CT noise. emulatorloo Oct 2017 #67

He started that race expecting to get about 5% of the vote Kentonio Oct 2017 #98

Yes, it would be fascinating ... NanceGreggs Oct 2017 #142

He was not rejected, Clinton was put forward. Using that kind of language is silly. And Sanders JCanete Oct 2017 #136

Sure, mm hmm, okay. NanceGreggs Oct 2017 #144

Not hardly. HRC totally whooped his ass. Not to mention this fantasy has been debunked. Lil Missy Oct 2017 #43

Russians stirring the ole Shitpot! Cryptoad Oct 2017 #45

* Wwcd Oct 2017 #51

BTW,,,,,welcome to DU, Comrade! Cryptoad Oct 2017 #119

Interesting. Joined a week ago and zipped passed the 100 post mark just like that. Hekate Oct 2017 #126

He's not "our" candidate. Bleacher Creature Oct 2017 #47

Well said.Thanks for posting this but wonder if it will open any minds onit2day Oct 2017 #48

Nothing sourced from Jared Kushners right wing rag is going to open my mind. MrsCoffee Oct 2017 #92

Did you look at the poll...it is a bullshit poll from a right wing rag... Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #115

Here we go again with this questionable poll. From the FIRST page of the poll: George II Oct 2017 #52

That's a very good point. The problem isn't the results necessarily, but certainly the declaration JCanete Oct 2017 #76

I pretty much agree with you on this Tom Rinaldo Oct 2017 #108

Steve Bannon and Rex Tillerson are politicians? mcar Oct 2017 #113

Do you understand weighting? Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2017 #128

Not hard to understand why. Snackshack Oct 2017 #58

To answer your last question, Blue, PatrickforO Oct 2017 #59

This poll causes such tremendous butthurt melman Oct 2017 #64

1. Bernie @ 53%. 2. Mike Pence @ 45%. Pence is almost as popular as Bernie. emulatorloo Oct 2017 #71

The Republicans would be smart to run Pence LittleBlue Oct 2017 #81

Most Americans don't want a theocrat in office using the Bible to legislate emulatorloo Oct 2017 #112

And from so many PDittie Oct 2017 #107

The butthurt come from those who are so desperate to think that a former presidential Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #117

funny that's what the right wingers say treestar Oct 2017 #143

Oh dear dog, no, not THIS again! NastyRiffraff Oct 2017 #65

Nope seta1950 Oct 2017 #68

Addressing your final sentence: how is he being "thrown under the bus because of labels"? Hekate Oct 2017 #77

What a great post...you said it so much better than me. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #118

Well, thank you. Glad to be of service. Hekate Oct 2017 #127

It was perfect! Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #135

sorry..I don't agree... chillfactor Oct 2017 #78

Hillary won 3 million more votes than Trump. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #90

In the immortal words of the current resident of the Oval Office...."Fake News", and in this case... Tarheel_Dem Oct 2017 #82

This is... Mike Nelson Oct 2017 #83

I cant believe people post shit from the observer and defend it just like the Russia Today bullshit MrsCoffee Oct 2017 #91

Russians are duping again. Just remember their role in 2016, coolsandy Oct 2017 #93

I wonder why the referenced ad-free version lapucelle Oct 2017 #94

Good catch, lapucelle. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #130

We must remember that the purpose of this website Trumpocalypse Oct 2017 #99

im sorry, i just cant............ samnsara Oct 2017 #102

Jared Kushner is laughing at you. N/t FSogol Oct 2017 #103

Really? MrScorpio Oct 2017 #104

Excellent ! left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #109

First of all, it is an online polls...IE meaningless. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #111

It's too bad Bernie's not a Democrat. Progressive dog Oct 2017 #120

Why does the link at the archived version go to a Turkish source? lapucelle Oct 2017 #124

How very special. comradebillyboy Oct 2017 #129

St Petersburg is probably chilly this time of year... LanternWaste Oct 2017 #132

This is the part where I remind DU Blue_Tires Oct 2017 #138

I'm sorry, when did politics become just a popularity contest? Blue_Tires Oct 2017 #139

Bernie isn't a Dem, so he isn't "OUR" candidate Blue_Tires Oct 2017 #140

Just over 600,000 will be the most people he will ever officially represent. bluepen Oct 2017 #153

I bet you this thread is a flame war JonLP24 Oct 2017 #154