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Fiendish Thingy

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31. Faulty premise, faulty logic
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 02:53 PM
Sep 2023
Faulty premise: accepting as fact that national polls in September 2023 have any predictive value for swing states in November 2024.

Faulty logic: using the faulty premise above, the author presumes the reason Trump and Biden are supposedly “tied” (and will be tied in November 2024) is because the Democratic establishment doesn’t listen to voters in Republican strongholds, where Biden is unlikely to win in 2024.

Logical logic: rather than waste resources on trying to persuade a small number of “economically anxious” white boomers who hang out in swing state diners to abandon Trump and vote for Biden, instead Dems should focus on the largest untapped pool of reliable, predictable Democratic voters in the country: voters between 18-29. Young voters voters choose Dem candidates more than twice as often as they choose republican ones, something like 67% to 30%, IIRC. Their turnout numbers continue to increase, and without their votes in 2020, Biden would not have won his razor thin victories in GA, AZ, and WI.

It is my understand the DNC and the Biden campaign are launching a voter registration effort this month targeting young voters in certain critical regions.

Let’s hope that kind of logical logic prevails.

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The CNN poll is bogus LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2023 #1
I think Clinton go 55% of youth vote in 2016. We know how that turned out. Silent Type Sep 2023 #4
She won the popular vote by a wide margin edhopper Sep 2023 #11
Popular vote doesn't count, rightely or wrongly. Point is, we need more than 55%. Silent Type Sep 2023 #15
EXACTLY RocRizzo55 Sep 2023 #21
He's absolutely right. The future belongs to the young. calguy Sep 2023 #27
Oh gosh! Gavin Newsom! DEFINITELY a man for the future! calimary Sep 2023 #37
THIS!!☝️GenZ will reelect Biden!! onetexan Sep 2023 #47
"Polls are meaningless!" "Why should we engage with those people?" DavidDvorkin Sep 2023 #2
+1. Biden will obnoxiousdrunk Sep 2023 #5
Why would he win in a landslide this time as opposed to '20? oldsoftie Sep 2023 #12
Roe v. Wade actually got overturned as opposed to it just being a possiblility Blues Heron Sep 2023 #35
I'm sure President Romney agrees with you 100% emulatorloo Sep 2023 #17
If TFG is the GOP nominee, President Biden's age will not be a big issue LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2023 #3
+1 MontanaMama Sep 2023 #6
one has an enormous gut and neck of an Arkansas Razor Back hog, NCjack Sep 2023 #25
DEMOCRATS FAIL TO ENGAGE! MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2023 #7
Oh... look who wrote it. That tells me all I need to know. It can be safely ignored!! Oopsie Daisy Sep 2023 #9
Oh man mahina Sep 2023 #26
One word: inflation The Mouth Sep 2023 #8
I give you credit for putting it out there. oldsoftie Sep 2023 #13
A lot can and will happen in 14 months. emulatorloo Sep 2023 #20
No one is saying 'panic' The Mouth Sep 2023 #46
One word: bigotry Steven Maurer Sep 2023 #18
Absolutely not BlueIn_W_Pa Sep 2023 #39
+1 progressoid Sep 2023 #19
Three words: corporate. driven. pricing. ancianita Sep 2023 #30
Exactly!!! BlueIn_W_Pa Sep 2023 #36
Throw health at Trump. Among other things. LiberalFighter Sep 2023 #10
It is 14 MONTHS AWAY from the election. Polls this early are meaningless. emulatorloo Sep 2023 #14
National polls are meaningless. I'd like to see polls of 5-6 states; oldsoftie Sep 2023 #16
YES!! BlueIn_W_Pa Sep 2023 #40
Finally in Wisconsin we have a lively state Democratic party Wild blueberry Sep 2023 #22
The real problem IMO Playingmantis Sep 2023 #23
Welcome to DU, Playingmantis! calimary Sep 2023 #44
THEY AREN'T TIED - please stop repeating this lie FakeNoose Sep 2023 #24
THANK YOU! IT'S ALL HYPE! ancianita Sep 2023 #28
Yeah, well, Hillary v Trump was supposed to be a blowout for us BlueIn_W_Pa Sep 2023 #41
Right now it's President Biden vs Defendant Trump. calguy Sep 2023 #29
Faulty premise, faulty logic Fiendish Thingy Sep 2023 #31
This Martin Eden Sep 2023 #45
Dems dont have control of the house kaznew Sep 2023 #32
The real source is obvious: bad, tainted polling. ananda Sep 2023 #33
I agree polls this far out are stupid. slightlv Sep 2023 #34
The poll paid for by The GOP/Trumpies? flying_wahini Sep 2023 #38
Oh no, Egg on the face. Hair on fire! 58Sunliner Sep 2023 #42
There's no point fretting over polls Fullduplexxx Sep 2023 #43
'Democratic advisors and consultants are disconnected from grassroots realities.' ??? elleng Sep 2023 #48
After a review by forum hosts, locking........ Omaha Steve Sep 2023 #49
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