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slightlv

(4,518 posts)
34. I agree polls this far out are stupid.
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 03:19 PM
Sep 2023

This poll... like so many others... are weighted to obtain the result the pollsters want. What we (Democrats and the DNC) need to realize is that the polls are always going to be against us because they're bought and paid for by our enemies, the oligarchy. Mergers and buy outs have consolidated our "news" channels to a very few oligarchs, and they pay for the polls. These things are worse than useless. They not only don't tell the truth, they tell "managed truth" which is much more demoralizing to those that care.

Also, IMNSHO, while pocketbook issues are always going to be important, you can see how worried R's are about the "abortion issue" when they're trying desperately to come up with another phrase to describe themselves besides "pro life." They want to come up with a whole new phrase for themselves, pawn it off on everyone, and lie their way into power. Democrats would be incredibly behind the times if they don't push women's rights... and name abortion as what it is. People are tired of catch phrases that can be heard in any multiple ways. They want blunt truth. "Pro-Choice" is a good descriptor. It doesn't say we're FOR abortion. It says we're for leaving it up to the woman, her doctor, and her family to make the decisions necessary for herself.

It'd also be good to zero in on the other ways R's are taking away women's civil rights... like trying to keep us from travelling out of state, etc. These are short jaunts to what they really want for us -- sequestered in the home and not engaged with society and economics at all. I've already lived through that in the 60's and 70's. I don't want to see my young grandniece have to live it in her near future. I want my daughter to have better retirement opportunities than I've had.

We who marched and fought for women's rights are in our old age now, but we're not willing to sit back and let it all fall away. It's not only hurting the younger women now; it's hurting us in our old age, as well. We may not have to worry about pregnancies any longer, but we DO have to worry about less retirement income because our earnings potential was always tamped down throughout our working life. More than that, we're pissed that all our efforts are being rolled back in the name of white patriarchy. Those of us who still have the physical wherewithal to walk, march, protest, are out there doing it again. The rest of us are spreading the word and voting like hell. It'd be stupid of Democrats not to take advantage of this sea change in attitudes towards what we've always been told was a "divisive issue." Look what we've discovered -- it's NOT divisive! The majority WANTS abortion to be kept free, fair, and legal; and they majority still agrees with fairness on the other "life" issues, as well... racism, homophobia, as well as misogyny.

Democratic candidates have a wide range of positive issues on which to build their campaigns. They also have a good foundation of economics to build on based on what Biden's accomplished despite the traitors in the "freedom caucus" trying to tear it all down at the same time.

And, if we want to campaign on comparatives -- the R's have given us a once in a generation chance to do it without having to go exceptionally dirty. The majority of Americans do not want what the R's are selling. We just have to point it out and do comparatives!

Magats, while they are many are not enough to outnumber the rest of democracy loving Americans. All we have to accomplish is getting everyone out to vote, and making sure each vote counts. The only way the R's win is if they cheat. And they WILL try to cheat, both "legally" and illegally. Herein lies our biggest problem -- keeping our elections free for all to engage with.

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The CNN poll is bogus LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2023 #1
I think Clinton go 55% of youth vote in 2016. We know how that turned out. Silent Type Sep 2023 #4
She won the popular vote by a wide margin edhopper Sep 2023 #11
Popular vote doesn't count, rightely or wrongly. Point is, we need more than 55%. Silent Type Sep 2023 #15
EXACTLY RocRizzo55 Sep 2023 #21
He's absolutely right. The future belongs to the young. calguy Sep 2023 #27
Oh gosh! Gavin Newsom! DEFINITELY a man for the future! calimary Sep 2023 #37
THIS!!☝️GenZ will reelect Biden!! onetexan Sep 2023 #47
"Polls are meaningless!" "Why should we engage with those people?" DavidDvorkin Sep 2023 #2
+1. Biden will obnoxiousdrunk Sep 2023 #5
Why would he win in a landslide this time as opposed to '20? oldsoftie Sep 2023 #12
Roe v. Wade actually got overturned as opposed to it just being a possiblility Blues Heron Sep 2023 #35
I'm sure President Romney agrees with you 100% emulatorloo Sep 2023 #17
If TFG is the GOP nominee, President Biden's age will not be a big issue LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2023 #3
+1 MontanaMama Sep 2023 #6
one has an enormous gut and neck of an Arkansas Razor Back hog, NCjack Sep 2023 #25
DEMOCRATS FAIL TO ENGAGE! MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2023 #7
Oh... look who wrote it. That tells me all I need to know. It can be safely ignored!! Oopsie Daisy Sep 2023 #9
Oh man mahina Sep 2023 #26
One word: inflation The Mouth Sep 2023 #8
I give you credit for putting it out there. oldsoftie Sep 2023 #13
A lot can and will happen in 14 months. emulatorloo Sep 2023 #20
No one is saying 'panic' The Mouth Sep 2023 #46
One word: bigotry Steven Maurer Sep 2023 #18
Absolutely not BlueIn_W_Pa Sep 2023 #39
+1 progressoid Sep 2023 #19
Three words: corporate. driven. pricing. ancianita Sep 2023 #30
Exactly!!! BlueIn_W_Pa Sep 2023 #36
Throw health at Trump. Among other things. LiberalFighter Sep 2023 #10
It is 14 MONTHS AWAY from the election. Polls this early are meaningless. emulatorloo Sep 2023 #14
National polls are meaningless. I'd like to see polls of 5-6 states; oldsoftie Sep 2023 #16
YES!! BlueIn_W_Pa Sep 2023 #40
Finally in Wisconsin we have a lively state Democratic party Wild blueberry Sep 2023 #22
The real problem IMO Playingmantis Sep 2023 #23
Welcome to DU, Playingmantis! calimary Sep 2023 #44
THEY AREN'T TIED - please stop repeating this lie FakeNoose Sep 2023 #24
THANK YOU! IT'S ALL HYPE! ancianita Sep 2023 #28
Yeah, well, Hillary v Trump was supposed to be a blowout for us BlueIn_W_Pa Sep 2023 #41
Right now it's President Biden vs Defendant Trump. calguy Sep 2023 #29
Faulty premise, faulty logic Fiendish Thingy Sep 2023 #31
This Martin Eden Sep 2023 #45
Dems dont have control of the house kaznew Sep 2023 #32
The real source is obvious: bad, tainted polling. ananda Sep 2023 #33
I agree polls this far out are stupid. slightlv Sep 2023 #34
The poll paid for by The GOP/Trumpies? flying_wahini Sep 2023 #38
Oh no, Egg on the face. Hair on fire! 58Sunliner Sep 2023 #42
There's no point fretting over polls Fullduplexxx Sep 2023 #43
'Democratic advisors and consultants are disconnected from grassroots realities.' ??? elleng Sep 2023 #48
After a review by forum hosts, locking........ Omaha Steve Sep 2023 #49
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