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98. No that would be concern for many regardless of age

Mon Sep 16, 2024, 09:51 PM

Sep 2024

For the showering, even if they only allowed the most polite, respectful, and mature males who would never look at or make a crass comment, a good number of women wouldn't want to be naked around men. There is probably a good number of men who might be uncomfortable being naked around women too. That's just how things are.

As for their bunk areas. They are out to sea for long periods of time. The act of masturbation is a thing that takes place. It's awkward enough with another dude (or woman, I suppose) in the bunk above you. Now imagine that happening with a male and female in the same area. Also, such close proximity might encourage totally consensual relations, but that could lead to pregnancies and also bickering amongst sailors. That is just an issue with humans regardless of age.

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WOW! Traildogbob Sep 2024 #1

I don't think I want to know... Think. Again. Sep 2024 #2

Separate berths and bathing facilities would be my guess stumpysbear Sep 2024 #3

Oh, that's right, adult heterosexuals can't control themselves I forgot. Think. Again. Sep 2024 #4

Well, to be fair, the military doesn't have an awesome track record.... stumpysbear Sep 2024 #5

That sounds more like a hiring problem than a vessel design problem. Think. Again. Sep 2024 #14

You have to remember, that on nearly every naval vessel, yagotme Sep 2024 #17

Rape is now "hijinks"? Man, the world has changed. Think. Again. Sep 2024 #18

Rape isn't the only concern. A rarer occurrence than other things. yagotme Sep 2024 #20

Yep, definitely a hiring problem. Think. Again. Sep 2024 #23

You can teach someone the methodology of discipline, yagotme Sep 2024 #26

Yep, definitely sounds like they need to be... Think. Again. Sep 2024 #28

Going to be hard to "weed out" someone that may make an inappropriate comment yagotme Sep 2024 #30

It just seems to me... Think. Again. Sep 2024 #31

We have a volunteer force. yagotme Sep 2024 #32

We have the largest military in the world... Think. Again. Sep 2024 #34

Each active unit on record has a certain amount of slots to be filled. yagotme Sep 2024 #37

Sorry, ain't buying it... Think. Again. Sep 2024 #40

If you were in charge what would the military look like and how would you handle things? XorXor Sep 2024 #96

I would have military experts who are honest enough to focus only on... Think. Again. Sep 2024 #97

What does that look like, though? XorXor Sep 2024 #100

Nope, I have nothing specific for you, I'm just an internet rando with absolutely no interest in military administration Think. Again. Sep 2024 #103

Not rape between consenting adults pfitz59 Sep 2024 #70

If it's between consenting adults, why is there a concern? Think. Again. Sep 2024 #73

Because enlisted cannot fraternize with officers jimfields33 Sep 2024 #79

So tell them not to. Think. Again. Sep 2024 #80

They do. And if they don't listen, they are punished. jimfields33 Sep 2024 #84

Good, so everything's cool. No need for any more expensive re-designed subs. Think. Again. Sep 2024 #88

Yep. jimfields33 Sep 2024 #89

I didn't even know bosses were a part of this... Think. Again. Sep 2024 #91

Catch-22 sarisataka Sep 2024 #7

We really need to get past the junior high school mentality. Think. Again. Sep 2024 #9

Those 2 are still up there IronLionZion Sep 2024 #22

Jokes? But they're consenting adults, aren't they? Think. Again. Sep 2024 #24

No judgement from me IronLionZion Sep 2024 #39

USS Wyoming had an all female submarine crew 2 years ago IronLionZion Sep 2024 #25

The Ohio Class boats also have modifications for women on subs. NutmegYankee Sep 2024 #85

Well, males and females who have been away from their g/f's and b/f's for months sharing showers... Polybius Sep 2024 #63

Usually consenting adults enjoying each other's company when they choose to is a great idea. Think. Again. Sep 2024 #65

I'm all for public showers being co-ed, I'm just not sure it would work Polybius Sep 2024 #66

Have you considered therapy? Think. Again. Sep 2024 #67

No Polybius Sep 2024 #68

Okay, I understand if you need a few moments alone. Think. Again. Sep 2024 #69

Not in a joking mood today I see Polybius Sep 2024 #71

I thought that WAS funny! Think. Again. Sep 2024 #74

Oh Polybius Sep 2024 #82

female hygiene products in the bathrooms! sboatcar Sep 2024 #27

SHOCKING! Think. Again. Sep 2024 #29

They do have to see them. Both bathrooms must have tampons. jimfields33 Sep 2024 #83

Goodness, talk about diversion. Think. Again. Sep 2024 #87

Just has a few extra heads and dedicated berthing spaces. NutmegYankee Sep 2024 #76

Well, they'll all be in very close quarters for long stretches... Think. Again. Sep 2024 #78

It'll be fine. NutmegYankee Sep 2024 #81

I'm sure it would have been fine before the re-design, too Think. Again. Sep 2024 #86

Enough berthing and head space that males and females can have privacy jmowreader Sep 2024 #113

Oh, I'm glad everyone is getting individual en-suite rooms... Think. Again. Sep 2024 #114

It's not like that jmowreader Sep 2024 #115

Accommodation changes quaint Sep 2024 #6

Did people really have to share bunks and could only shower together in the old designs? Think. Again. Sep 2024 #10

The only submarine voyage I've been on was the original E-ticket at Disneyland. quaint Sep 2024 #11

Subs are limited in interior space. yagotme Sep 2024 #12

Oh, okay, so no one ever had to share a bunk in the old designs... Think. Again. Sep 2024 #13

No prob. yagotme Sep 2024 #15

Why would anyone need their own bunks if they're not sharing them anyway? Think. Again. Sep 2024 #16

I'm not quite sure what you're asking here, but I'll give it a stab. yagotme Sep 2024 #19

That's why I don't understand why the new vessel has to have... Think. Again. Sep 2024 #35

What I think they mean by "separate" is female/male. yagotme Sep 2024 #38

Yeah, I think what's confusing me... Think. Again. Sep 2024 #41

They can, but then we go back around to the hijinks thing again... nt yagotme Sep 2024 #44

Ah, yes, hiring people who are not yet ready for the job. Think. Again. Sep 2024 #46

No that would be concern for many regardless of age XorXor Sep 2024 #98

Bullshit, we're talking about adults. Think. Again. Sep 2024 #101

Can you clarify specifically what you disagree with and why? XorXor Sep 2024 #106

I disagree to the post I replied to because I don't believe it's true. Think. Again. Sep 2024 #107

It looks as if you replied to my post when you said "BS", was that your intention? XorXor Sep 2024 #109

The reason I reply "B.S." is because I don't believe, or agree with, the statement I replied "B.S." to. Think. Again. Sep 2024 #110

That was clear from the start, but I'm actually trying to understand your perspective in more detail XorXor Sep 2024 #111

During times of peace, what work is there to do on a sub? Polybius Sep 2024 #64

OMG! We train and exercise the ship as if we are at war maxrandb Sep 2024 #112

"We will stand off their coast and run missile drills." yagotme Sep 2024 #117

'Hot racking' is/was real on older model subs. pfitz59 Sep 2024 #72

So why the expensive re-design then? Think. Again. Sep 2024 #77

Because those bunks are all in one room. Angleae Sep 2024 #94

Ah, yes, individual rooms will be nice! Think. Again. Sep 2024 #95

Aint happening on a sub, no space. Angleae Sep 2024 #99

So now we're back to "why bother, then?" Think. Again. Sep 2024 #102

It makes sense. If the Boy Socuts could do it, one would hope the Navy could figure it out. nt Gore1FL Sep 2024 #92

Mustn't...mention... Gruenemann Sep 2024 #8

I remember the first coed missile silos... Prairie Gates Sep 2024 #21

Social progress often trails tech progress Torchlight Sep 2024 #33

Yep, soon every crew member will have their own submarine to themself.... Think. Again. Sep 2024 #36

2-person Japanese sub: yagotme Sep 2024 #42

THOSE TWO PEOPLE BETTER BE MARRIED!!! Think. Again. Sep 2024 #43

Japanese culture, early 1940's, I highly doubt it. yagotme Sep 2024 #45

Oh, wow, what a sexually liberated society that was! Think. Again. Sep 2024 #47

You forgot your sarcasm thingy. Some here might take what you said as reality. yagotme Sep 2024 #49

So then why does the new sub only separate males from females? Think. Again. Sep 2024 #51

"Don't ask, don't tell." yagotme Sep 2024 #52

Yes, so the military IS okay with same-sex relations as long as no one brags about it. Think. Again. Sep 2024 #53

Maybe then, females shouldn't be on board... yagotme Sep 2024 #54

How is any of that different from anyone not wanting to... Think. Again. Sep 2024 #55

Showering in front of someone the same sex is usually started in Jr High, at least High School. yagotme Sep 2024 #56

Ah, I see, it's the school system's fault for not implementing co-ed showers for children.... Think. Again. Sep 2024 #57

Well, if you insist upon putting words in my mouth, then I'm done. yagotme Sep 2024 #58

Thanks, you too! Think. Again. Sep 2024 #60

It does not follow Torchlight Sep 2024 #48

I served 28.5 years in the Navy, and was there when we started allowing women to serve on combatant ships maxrandb Sep 2024 #50

Too bad some can't grasp this concept: yagotme Sep 2024 #59

You mean adults do that? Shocking! Think. Again. Sep 2024 #61

Thank you, finally some mature common sense! Think. Again. Sep 2024 #62

There's a long running joke in the 'bubblehead' (submariner) community pfitz59 Sep 2024 #75

What about the Sea Tiger!?!?!?! Gore1FL Sep 2024 #90

I attended an Army training course one time for both male and female soldiers. Aristus Sep 2024 #93

That's difficult for submariners Bavorskoami Sep 2024 #104

True. Aristus Sep 2024 #105

Next step will be ADA-compliant submarines. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2024 #108

I've been snarky in my posts on this... Think. Again. Sep 2024 #116

Perhaps snark was the wrong vehicle to convey your concerns. yagotme Sep 2024 #118

I see, thanks for that. Think. Again. Sep 2024 #119