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30. No, that's not necessary

Reply to Polybius (Reply #28)

Fri Nov 29, 2024, 11:30 AM

Nov 29

Go back and read it:

… shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. …

The Supreme Court did not question whether or not the 14th amendment applied. They said it wasn’t up to the individual states to enforce it against federal candidates.

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/amdt14-S3-2/ALDE_00000070/

In reaching its decision in Trump v. Anderson, the U.S. Supreme Court observed that Congress enjoys power to enforce the Amendment through legislation pursuant to Section 5 of the Fourteenth Amendment, and reasoned that Section 5 grants Congress alone the authority to provide for the enforcement of Section 3 against federal officeholders and candidates. The Court noted, however, that states retain concurrent authority to enforce Section 3 with respect to state offices.

The default position of Section 3 is that he cannot serve, unless it is overridden by ⅔’s majority votes in both houses.

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That's if Congress first convicts him of insurrection Polybius Nov 29 #28

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"The Court noted, however, that states retain concurrent authority to enforce Section 3 with respect to state offices" Polybius Nov 29 #31

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