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Afrocat

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107. Sanity has long left the building

Tue Dec 3, 2024, 06:03 AM

Dec 3

This bothers me but it doesn't matter anymore. The Republicans and their voters have long pulled us across the Rubicon. They have, and will, pardon people who have, and will, do worse. Those they choose to give pardons to will be at their discretion and entirely unfettered by weather they should or shouldn't. No decision they make is ever constrained by the guardrails of morality.No decision we make will provide a teachable example to these people that will make them revisit the unjustness of their positions and the things they choose to do.

Does this mean that we just give up being upright in our choices, no. Which is why this particular act bothers me. However, in light of the fact of what the Supreme court and conservative judges have done to to bend the system in Trumps favor already. In light of the fact that "conservative" voters have given this an enthusiastic green light. I'm absolutely willing to give Biden a mulligan and continue on with the fight. The coming years are going to be packed full of nonsense that this one bad decision will pale in comparison to and will happen weather Joe had pardoned Hunter or not.

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Some Democrats are frustrated over Joe Biden reversing course and pardoning his son Hunter [View all] Polybius Dec 2 OP

I think Joe Biden has no fucks left to give. Ray Bruns Dec 2 #1

and neither should we. Think. Again. Dec 2 #29

Absolutely. There are tons more important issues than Biden Jr. Let them go in peace. SWBTATTReg Dec 2 #60

And nor should he. kacekwl Dec 2 #51

Right Roy Rolling Dec 3 #106

This Democrat is frustrated with the Democrats who are frustrated over that pardon. City Lights Dec 2 #2

Well said! yardwork Dec 2 #13

exactly pspro Dec 2 #73

It's another case of both siderism MadameButterfly Dec 3 #109

Too bad. We have bigger fish to fry. There are no "norms" anymore LymphocyteLover Dec 2 #3

They would Simon Pure us right into the gas chamber. Klarkashton Dec 2 #4

"Some Democrats" can wax profound, it's easy when one has no flesh and blood in the game. Magoo48 Dec 2 #67

Polis not done fellating TFG I see durablend Dec 2 #5

Given who Trump pardoned in 2020, I don't see how anyone is complaining. ificandream Dec 2 #6

Are you kidding union rep Dec 2 #7

He ought to issue an addendum pardon on January 5 marshall Dec 2 #47

Sighhhhh. Could we PLEASE stop using slang for male genitalia as a niyad Dec 2 #92

Ohh I'm Sooo Sorrrrry! Cha Dec 2 #8

The "justice system," under tsar tsf BlueKota Dec 2 #9

the "justice" dept. can't be trusted to keep ANY of us safe. Think. Again. Dec 2 #30

Anonymous accusations Fullduplexxx Dec 2 #10

Not really Polybius Dec 2 #14

And this one... Bet There Ae More than Khana Cha Dec 2 #26

How are/were Democrats expected to reform or curtail a President's pardoning power when in2herbs Dec 2 #36

There is not going to be a whole lot of "reforming" the president's pardon power without a... LudwigPastorius Dec 2 #94

I know Colorado is a state noted for its high elevation... Montauk6 Dec 2 #66

IKR.. Yeah, I was born and raised in the Mile High City Cha Dec 2 #97

NO Not "anonymous". Cha Dec 2 #25

These people keep pretending everything is going to be fine. Think. Again. Dec 2 #31

Thank you, Just-Us Democrats... smh Montauk6 Dec 2 #65

Right.... agenda. Not working . Cha Dec 2 #72

Meh iemanja Dec 2 #11

Shame to those Ds. All of them would pardon their children if given the opportunity. Clouds Passing Dec 2 #12

President Biden has lost 2 of his kids. Dulcinea Dec 2 #62

Giving pardons is part of being President. Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2 #15

Because he didn't think the sociopath would win. JohnSJ Dec 2 #16

Then all the more reason to pardon him. Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2 #68

I agree. JohnSJ Dec 2 #69

My thought EXACTLY!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2 #78

If I was president Biden I would worry his son might not make it alive out of jail Stargazer99 Dec 2 #89

Absolutely. ShazzieB Dec 3 #111

Oh, FFS. ramedy Dec 2 #17

Exactly claudette Dec 2 #34

Use a firehose yankee87 Dec 2 #18

I agree, now is the time to use ANY power we have... Think. Again. Dec 2 #33

Biden should declare war on maga truthisfreedom Dec 2 #19

The goal was to torture Joe thru his son. He did what he had to do. I'd like to think most parents would. Joinfortmill Dec 2 #20

That Gov. Jared Polis is still on X says a lot about him. nt TBF Dec 2 #21

DINO ramedy Dec 2 #24

yup, agree. nt TBF Dec 2 #50

Who cares we can do it Dec 2 #22

"bad precedent...abused by future presidents".... SERIOUSLY? CousinIT Dec 2 #23

Trump pardoned his daughters father-in-law for no reason, and Steve Bannon Prairie Gates Dec 2 #39

I agree. Also kacekwl Dec 2 #54

Disarray! it's Disarray I tells ya! Think. Again. Dec 2 #27

He didn't used to. intheflow Dec 2 #44

Trump will use his powers in a partisan way no matter what, BUT he will use Hunter Biden's pardon as a justification andym Dec 2 #28

Protecting ANY citizen from further persecution by the right... Think. Again. Dec 2 #35

The convicted new king will go after both Bidens no matter what. Justice matters. Dec 2 #77

Too bad claudette Dec 2 #32

You can disagree with a decision and stay quiet Raven123 Dec 2 #37

The squeaky wheel gets the grease. And, the attention. OldBaldy1701E Dec 3 #115

LOL...probably would have 90+% approval among rank and file Democrats Prairie Gates Dec 2 #38

Fuck 'em.... Blue_Tires Dec 2 #40

With Democratic friends like that, who needs Republican enemies? Ocelot II Dec 2 #41

Dear Wimpocrats, maddogesq Dec 2 #42

Holy fuck, what is going on with Jared Polis? intheflow Dec 2 #43

Probably auditioning for his grand party switch. He seems like a pure political animal. /nt spudspud Dec 2 #49

That ship has sailed Blue Dotty Dec 2 #45

it'd be lovely to think that an unbending decision to hold the moral high ground, however painful muriel_volestrangler Dec 2 #46

Still too many Dem leaders with their heads up their ass... spudspud Dec 2 #48

Two words gay texan Dec 2 #52

My sentiments exactly: Fuck em. (nt) Paladin Dec 2 #55

Such Democrats need to be primaried Yavin4 Dec 2 #53

Really, AP? Four Democrats. Quelle horreur. Scrivener7 Dec 2 #56

This is the kind of stupidity that allows the GOP to divide and conquer. VegasVet Dec 2 #57

Those will make excellent candidates to be primaried. Basso8vb Dec 2 #58

What will the reaction be when he pardons his brother ? MichMan Dec 2 #59

I hope it bothers you even more RandiFan1290 Dec 3 #110

LOL. "Some democrats." LOL. Biden was forced to do this. PSPS Dec 2 #61

Joe Biden, I have no doubt at all... The Unmitigated Gall Dec 2 #63

Malicious bullshit... GiqueCee Dec 2 #64

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2 #70

Welcome back!!! Bye again!! GP6971 Dec 2 #71

The fact that we're being inundated by trolls over this guarantees that it was the right move Prairie Gates Dec 2 #75

Yep...and I wasn't surprised by the reaction. GP6971 Dec 2 #91

Are these Democrats also 'frustrated' by tRump pardoning mzmolly Dec 2 #74

President Biden saw the people 45 is putting in his cabinet MacKasey Dec 2 #76

100% InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2 #80

What father would not pardon BunkieBandit Dec 2 #79

Fuck them. bamagal62 Dec 2 #81

Boo hoo hoo! Oopsie Daisy Dec 2 #82

Who can possibly read that first sentence and not realize that the Associated Press ZZenith Dec 2 #83

Once again you can't reason or rationalize anything regarding TSF! Hope22 Dec 2 #84

He did the right thing Botany Dec 2 #85

They can get the fuck over it. . . . BigDemVoter Dec 2 #86

Biden said that when he believed his son would be treated fairly though. cstanleytech Dec 2 #87

Well then, they are stupid Quanta Dec 2 #88

it was a farce from the beginning azureblue Dec 2 #90

Oh you are? Gee I'm sorry. lees1975 Dec 2 #93

I agree with President Biden's decision because..... KY_EnviroGuy Dec 2 #95

That's fine I won't vote for any of them MistakenLamb Dec 2 #96

Gee, attack Trump with pardoning Jared's Dad, Roger Stone, Steve Bannon, Mike Flynn, the list goes on. 33taw Dec 3 #98

Them and their felling can F 'off NotHardly Dec 3 #99

"Some Democrats." The way the media covers this shit pisses me off and I've been seeing through it for a long time now. Karasu Dec 3 #100

Other than raising billions and losing elections, not sure what the party stands for. Hassler Dec 3 #101

It won't tarnish his reputation with me. To hell with all of them, President Biden did the right thing. LoisB Dec 3 #102

Not me. diane in sf Dec 3 #103

No f*cks to give BlueMTexpat Dec 3 #104

Oh dear Keepthesoulalive Dec 3 #105

Sanity has long left the building Afrocat Dec 3 #107

This is the right CONTROLLING THE MESSAGE........AGAIN! Hope22 Dec 3 #108

It's time to use the term Fascist sympathizer. nt Hotler Dec 3 #112

Polis has been a real disappointment lately. This is all BS. Media loves Dems in disarray stories LymphocyteLover Dec 3 #113

Let's See DownriverDem Dec 3 #114

Have they not read the room? ejbr Dec 3 #116

Screw Them... OhioTim Dec 3 #117

Polis seems like a first class idiot. travelingthrulife Dec 3 #118

Some Democrats are frustrated over Joe Biden reversing course, damn that's to bad. republianmushroom Dec 3 #119