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In reply to the discussion: Kim Davis pleads with appeals court to let her off the hook for $100,000 owed to same-sex couple she denied a marriage [View all]mahatmakanejeeves
(62,697 posts)18. September 2015: The Kim Davis Saga May Last Until At Least January, If Not Longer
The Kim Davis Saga May Last Until At Least January, If Not Longer
Fri Sep 11, 2015: The Kim Davis Saga May Last Until At Least January, If Not Longer
by Zack Ford Sep 11, 2015 8:00am
Embattled Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis will return to work on Monday, and her lawyers refuse to clarify whether she will allow her deputies to continue issuing marriage licenses as they have since last Friday. If she doesnt, it could restart a new cycle of contempt and send her back to jail for again violating a federal court order.
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Mat Staver, head of the Liberty Counsel, the anti-LGBT legal organization that represents Davis, has made numerous claims in the press about the validity of licenses issued by her deputies and the accommodations she could be provided. For example, in a new interview with the Heritage Foundations Daily Signal, Staver claims that Gov. Steve Beshear (D) could simply print new marriage license forms that take her name and title off, which costs nothing to the commonwealth. Every aspect of this is untrue.
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But the legislature doesnt actually have to change anything to accommodate Davis. Kentucky law specifically states that anything a ministerial officer can do may be performed by his lawful deputy. This, combined with the laws numerous references to deputy county clerks issuing marriage licenses and filing marriage certificates, suggests that nothing actually requires Davis to interact with a marriage license.
This question similarly came up during the contempt hearing as {U.S. District Judge David Bunning} was considering requiring the deputies to issue licenses. Can deputies issue valid marriage licenses without Davis presence or approval? William Ellis Sharp, an ACLU attorney representing the same-sex couples who filed the complaint against Davis, explained to the court that it made little sense that she could actually prevent deputies from performing their duty. ... We dont think her authority extends that far, Sharp explained, insofar as the office, apart from Kim Davis, exists to perform certain public functions. Kim Davis does not have to personally touch every marriage license. She employs people for the purpose of carrying out the duties of that office. To the extent Kim Davis has an erroneous instruction of her ability to block them from doing that, that, nonetheless, does not mean that they cannot perform those functions.
Embattled Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis will return to work on Monday, and her lawyers refuse to clarify whether she will allow her deputies to continue issuing marriage licenses as they have since last Friday. If she doesnt, it could restart a new cycle of contempt and send her back to jail for again violating a federal court order.
{snip}
Mat Staver, head of the Liberty Counsel, the anti-LGBT legal organization that represents Davis, has made numerous claims in the press about the validity of licenses issued by her deputies and the accommodations she could be provided. For example, in a new interview with the Heritage Foundations Daily Signal, Staver claims that Gov. Steve Beshear (D) could simply print new marriage license forms that take her name and title off, which costs nothing to the commonwealth. Every aspect of this is untrue.
{snip}
But the legislature doesnt actually have to change anything to accommodate Davis. Kentucky law specifically states that anything a ministerial officer can do may be performed by his lawful deputy. This, combined with the laws numerous references to deputy county clerks issuing marriage licenses and filing marriage certificates, suggests that nothing actually requires Davis to interact with a marriage license.
This question similarly came up during the contempt hearing as {U.S. District Judge David Bunning} was considering requiring the deputies to issue licenses. Can deputies issue valid marriage licenses without Davis presence or approval? William Ellis Sharp, an ACLU attorney representing the same-sex couples who filed the complaint against Davis, explained to the court that it made little sense that she could actually prevent deputies from performing their duty. ... We dont think her authority extends that far, Sharp explained, insofar as the office, apart from Kim Davis, exists to perform certain public functions. Kim Davis does not have to personally touch every marriage license. She employs people for the purpose of carrying out the duties of that office. To the extent Kim Davis has an erroneous instruction of her ability to block them from doing that, that, nonetheless, does not mean that they cannot perform those functions.
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Kim Davis pleads with appeals court to let her off the hook for $100,000 owed to same-sex couple she denied a marriage [View all]
BumRushDaShow
Jan 31
OP
You're right. And I learned from the show "Bob hearts Abishola" that no where in the bible does it say anything
Maraya1969
Jan 31
#10
Bigoted assholes who think that Jesus will give 'em an extra comfy couch in heaven if they
Botany
Jan 31
#12
My thought, too. Just how long do these people have to wait for court ordered restitution?
Deuxcents
Jan 31
#26
September 2015: The Kim Davis Saga May Last Until At Least January, If Not Longer
mahatmakanejeeves
Jan 31
#18
I think she is just grifting. She hopes someone with money will hear her plea and give her the money.
usaf-vet
Jan 31
#21
Don't laugh too soon, guys. Clarence Thomas mentioned Obergefell in his concurrence with Dobbs...
Hekate
Jan 31
#25
My jaw dropped when I saw this post--there is the big R for Religion in it and do believe she
riversedge
Jan 31
#32
When Dobbs was passed, I cried for 3 days. But when I *read* Dobbs, I went ballistic...
Hekate
Jan 31
#33
I had forgotten that Clarence Thomas left the right to 'interracial marriage"!! Thanks for the reminder.
riversedge
Jan 31
#36
I will never forget what she looked like then. I will avoid ever seeing her again. My EYES.......
twodogsbarking
Jan 31
#31
Sell you house Kimmy.................how about forfeiting your pension.............
turbinetree
Jan 31
#35